[Wikimedia-l] Request for comment on global bans

Deryck Chan deryckchan at wikimedia.hk
Fri Jul 6 09:48:44 UTC 2012

Short answer as I understand it:
Global blocks are the technical feature and refer to the accounts, the IPs
and the software capability; global bans are the policy and refer to the
people who are unwelcome.

On 6 July 2012 10:44, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Steven,
> Could you explain the distinctions between https://meta.wikimedia.org/**
> wiki/Global_locks <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_locks>,
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Global_blocks<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_blocks>,
> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Global_bans<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_bans>?
> These look to me like they have some redundancy and some areas where they
> diverge. A chart which compares these three side-by-side would be helpful.
> Also, if Global Bans are decided by an RFC on Meta, that gives me pause. I
> can envision sockpuppets and meatpuppets attempting to sabotage the process
> and giving Meta checkusers more work to do, potentially much more work,
> especially if WP:DUCK behaviors need to be evaluated on multiple projects
> in multiple languages and/or coordination is needed with checkusers from
> projects in other languages. I'm a bit more supportive of the process at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Global_locks<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_locks>which seems to involve Stewards making the decision to take a global action
> based on multiple local projects taking local actions, rather than because
> there was a global community RFC at Meta. I agree with AFBorchert's comment
> at the RFC, "Meta is working great for non-controversial project
> coordination, requests to stewards etc. But Meta is in no way prepared to
> serve as a battleground for a large-scale global ban discussion which would
> tend to revive previous debates at other projects."
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm thinking that global locks and
> global blocks would be the best two of the three options to deal with a
> user who is problematic enough to be unwelcome on all wikis.
> Thanks,
> Pine
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