[Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Wed Jan 25 08:39:17 UTC 2012


On 01/24/12 3:26 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote:
> Sure; if the objective is to have comments by "people who are interested in
> the subject, can identify the relevant venue, can identify how to edit the
> relevant venue, are aware that they *can* edit, can handle wikimarkup and
> can deal with the fact that a lot of editors see "wide-ranging discussions
> on a subject" as utterly irrelevant and subject to removal unless they
> directly suggest alterations to the article content" instead of, well,
> "people who are interested in the subject".
The first part of your comments refer to mechanical issues which 
shouldn't invite a lot of controversy. Basic wikimarkup will be the same 
on article and talk pages. For the other, having material "subject to 
removal" give us the same problem that deletionists cause on article 
pages. It requires judging what other people write. Even expecting 
minimal relevance to the subject requires judging. I can go to an 
article see even a documented point made in it as questionable, but not 
have the resources to pursue the matter further. I can't validly change 
the article, but I would be remiss in not addressing the issue. Much of 
what is on the talk page will be unnecessarily long-winded, but that's a 
reasonable price for openness.

Ray

>
> On 24 January 2012 23:05, Ray Saintonge<saintonge at telus.net>  wrote:
>
>> On 01/22/12 3:44 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>>
>>> On 22 January 2012 23:39, Svip<svippy at gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> The name 'talk page' is also a terrible name and very ambiguous as to
>>>> what it is.  A far more appropriate candidate for such a page's name
>>>> would be 'collaboration page', 'work page', 'improvement page' and so
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>> English Wikinews calls it "collaboration". On English Wikipedia it
>>> used to be called "talk", this was changed to "discussion", and it was
>>> recently changed back to "talk".
>>>
>>>
>>>   I don't care what you call it. The talk page is still the best place for
>> wide ranging discussions on a subject.
>>
>>
>> Ray
>>





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