[Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

James Heilman jmh649 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 7 15:47:39 UTC 2012


Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain
further...

James Heilman
Wikimedia Canada

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:11 AM, <foundation-l-request at lists.wikimedia.org>wrote:

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>      4th 2012 (Steven Walling)
>   4. Re: Spanish website blocking law implemented (Kim Bruning)
>   5. Re: Spanish website blocking law implemented (Christophe Henner)
>   6. Re: Spanish website blocking law implemented (Kim Bruning)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:02:32 +0100
> From: emijrp <emijrp at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Spanish website blocking law implemented
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> http://gigaom.com/2012/01/04/how-spains-version-of-sopa-is-setting-the-web-on-fire/
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> 2012/1/4 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki at gmail.com>
>
> > emijrp, 04/01/2012 18:59:
> > > With this law, a special team in the Ministry of Culture of Spain can
> > block
> > > any (for-profit or non-profit) website, from Spain or overseas, that
> > > _links_ to copyrighted works. Including Google, Wikipedia or whatever.
> > > Without a judge.
> >
> > That's entirely different!
> >
> > > For further details, search for an analysis.
> >
> > The slashdot post links end up to a 6 months old WSJ article, is there
> > some more recent one you recommend? (Also Spanish.)
> > Thanks,
> >         Nemo
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:13:30 +0000
> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] the limits for fundraising. Was Blnk tag
>        jokes are now obsolete.
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> On 4 January 2012 16:24, Oliver Keyes <okeyes at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > Check the IP history; Jan-Bart added them ;p
>
> Now I'm on an actual computer and not trying to go through page
> histories on my phone, I've taken a closer look. The bit about being
> truthful was in the initial version. The other bit is the result of
> edits from several people (including me, although I'm not sure any of
> my wording survived the process).
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:48:03 -0800
> From: Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with the WMF
>        features        team, Jan. 4th 2012
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> Reminder that this is happening at 23:00 in #wikimedia-office.
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> From: Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>
> Date: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:58 AM
> Subject: IRC office hours with the WMF features team, Jan. 4th 2012
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> Hey everyone,
>
> Since folks have been asking about it, I wanted to announce that the
> features development team at the Wikimedia Foundation will be holding an
> office hours (in #wikimedia-office) about the general past, present, and
> future of MediaWiki features being worked on here at the WMF.
>
> This will be on January 4th, 2012 at 23:00 UTC. Documentation is on Meta
> for time conversion and IRC how-tos.[1]
>
> --
> Steven Walling
> Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation
> wikimediafoundation.org
>
> 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 17:29:09 +0100
> From: Kim Bruning <kim at bruning.xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Spanish website blocking law implemented
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> On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:02:32PM +0100, emijrp wrote:
> >
> http://gigaom.com/2012/01/04/how-spains-version-of-sopa-is-setting-the-web-on-fire/
> >
> > 2012/1/4 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki at gmail.com>
> >
> > > emijrp, 04/01/2012 18:59:
> > > > With this law, a special team in the Ministry of Culture of Spain can
> > > block
> > > > any (for-profit or non-profit) website, from Spain or overseas, that
> > > > _links_ to copyrighted works. Including Google, Wikipedia or
> whatever.
> > > > Without a judge.
> > >
>
>
> More links off of slashdot:
>
>
> http://torrentfreak.com/us-threatened-to-blacklist-spain-for-not-implementing-site-blocking-law-120105/
>
>
> To make a long story short, the USA is already pushing for SOPA in other
> countries. The game is afoot. I wonder if we've missed other countries that
> might
> implement similar legislation soon?
>
> In any case, it might be a good idea to check how and if the new spanish
> laws (will) affect WMF, and what measures need to be taken to stay safe for
> now.
>
> sincerely,
>        Kim Bruning
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 18:27:12 +0100
> From: Christophe Henner <christophe.henner at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Spanish website blocking law implemented
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
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> In France we we're that far [me showing a little space between my
> fingers] to get a similar law in 2006 and 2009. The law passed but all
> the "site blocking" things were removed following some lobbying (in
> which WMFr did not take part but some of the members did on a personal
> level).
>
> All the plan for similar laws has been postponed due to the 2012
> elections (presidential and parliement) but we know lobbyist are
> pushing forward to get it back on track. They actualy tried to had it
> through our online gambling law, but failed.
>
> Christophe
>
>
> On 5 January 2012 17:29, Kim Bruning <kim at bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:02:32PM +0100, emijrp wrote:
> >>
> http://gigaom.com/2012/01/04/how-spains-version-of-sopa-is-setting-the-web-on-fire/
> >>
> >> 2012/1/4 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> > emijrp, 04/01/2012 18:59:
> >> > > With this law, a special team in the Ministry of Culture of Spain
> can
> >> > block
> >> > > any (for-profit or non-profit) website, from Spain or overseas, that
> >> > > _links_ to copyrighted works. Including Google, Wikipedia or
> whatever.
> >> > > Without a judge.
> >> >
> >
> >
> > More links off of slashdot:
> >
> >
> http://torrentfreak.com/us-threatened-to-blacklist-spain-for-not-implementing-site-blocking-law-120105/
> >
> >
> > To make a long story short, the USA is already pushing for SOPA in other
> countries. The game is afoot. I wonder if we've missed other countries that
> might
> > implement similar legislation soon?
> >
> > In any case, it might be a good idea to check how and if the new spanish
> laws (will) affect WMF, and what measures need to be taken to stay safe for
> now.
> >
> > sincerely,
> > ? ? ? ?Kim Bruning
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:14:18 +0100
> From: Kim Bruning <kim at bruning.xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Spanish website blocking law implemented
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>        <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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>
> And canada is considering pushing back the public domain 20 years, under
> ... us influence yet again.
>
>        http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6225/125/
>
> (Proposed and existing) US policy (foreign and domestic) is not really
> in favor of wikimedia at the moment, is it? :-/
>
>
> sincerely,
>        Kim Bruning
> --
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:35:42 +1100
> From: John Vandenberg <jayvdb at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific
>        Partnership
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
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> Cc: Wikimedia Canada list <wikimedia-ca at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> subject was: Spanish website blocking law implemented
>
> Canadian public consultation on TPP closes February 14, 2012.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Pacific_Partnership
>
> Is WMF and/or WM-CA intending to submit their views?  How can we help!?
>
> Do we have a list of submissions to govt.by the Wikimedia community? e.g.
> there was an EU submission last year, and here is a WM-AU one
>
> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Submission_on_Australian_Digital_Future_Directions
> --
> John Vandenberg
> DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE CONSULTATIONS ON
> POTENTIAL FREE TRADE AGREEMENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP
> MEMBERS
>
> The Government of Canada is seeking the views of Canadians on the scope of
> possible free trade negotiations between Canada and Trans-Pacific
> Partnership (TPP) members, which include
>
>   - Australia
>   - Brunei Darussalam
>   - Chile  (see footnote
> 1)<
> http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2011/2011-12-31/html/notice-avis-eng.html#1
> >
>   - Malaysia
>   - New Zealand
>   - Peru (see footnote
> 2)<
> http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2011/2011-12-31/html/notice-avis-eng.html#2
> >
>   - Singapore
>   - United States (see footnote
> 3)<
> http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2011/2011-12-31/html/notice-avis-eng.html#3
> >
>   - Vietnam
>
> Additional countries have also expressed their interest in consultations on
> joining the discussions:
>
>   - Japan
>   - Mexico (see footnote
> 4)<
> http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2011/2011-12-31/html/notice-avis-eng.html#4
> >
>
> This notice is part of the Government of Canada?s domestic consultation
> process with business, citizen-based organizations and individual
> Canadians, as well as with provincial and territorial governments, to
> obtain advice and views on priorities, objectives and concerns to help
> outline the parameters of this initiative.
>
> Background
>
> The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a free trade agreement under
> negotiation to liberalize trade in the Asia-Pacific region. Nine countries
> are currently participating in the negotiations: Australia, Brunei
> Darussalam, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Vietnam and the
> United States. Japan and Mexico have recently announced their intentions to
> begin consultations to join the TPP. With the participation of Canada,
> Mexico and Japan, the TPP would represent a market of more than 775 million
> people and a combined GDP of $25.7 trillion (or US$24.9 trillion) ? a
> market larger than the European Union.
>
> The intent of TPP negotiators is to create an ambitious, high-standard
> regional free trade agreement that covers a wide range of areas related to
> trade and investment. On November 12, 2011, leaders of the TPP member
> countries meeting in Honolulu, Hawaii, for the Asia Pacific Economic
> Cooperation (APEC) forum announced the achievement of a broad outline of an
> agreement that would enhance trade and investment, promote innovation,
> economic growth and development, and create and sustain jobs. Nine rounds
> of negotiations have taken place.
>
> Following review of the November 2011 outline released by TPP members,
> Canada notes the high degree of complementarity between what is being
> pursued in the TPP and the approach Canada takes in its own trade
> negotiations.
>
> Additional information on the TPP can be found at www.ustr.gov/tpp (in
> English only).
>
> Submissions by interested parties
>
> The Government is embarking on a public consultation process to allow all
> interested stakeholders an early opportunity to provide comments, input and
> advice on possible free trade negotiations with TPP countries (current nine
> members and other interested countries: Japan and Mexico). It is essential
> that the Government of Canada be fully aware of the interests and potential
> sensitivities of Canadians with respect to this initiative. We welcome
> advice and views on any priorities, objectives and concerns relating to
> possible free trade negotiations with TPP countries. In particular, we are
> seeking views with respect to the following:
>
>   - Opinions on areas of goods export interest (identified by Harmonized
>   System [HS]/Tariff codes, if possible), including products that would
>   benefit from the early removal of tariffs and other barriers by TPP
>   countries.
>   - Views on market access liberalization for TPP countries products
>   (identified by HS/Tariff codes, if possible) into the Canadian market,
>   including input on those products for which the elimination of tariffs
>   should be expedited or phased-in over time.
>   - Advice and views on trade in services, particularly the identification
>   of sectors/activities of export interest for Canadian service providers,
>   and opinions on domestic regulatory measures that restrict or otherwise
>   affect market access for Canadian service providers.
>   - Advice, views and experiences regarding the temporary entry of
>   business persons from Canada into TPP countries and into Canada from TPP
>   countries (e.g. impediments to entering or working in TPP countries on a
>   temporary basis, including licensing or certification requirements at the
>   border).
>   - Advice, views and experiences regarding measures affecting exports
>   destined for TPP countries, including non-tariff barriers (such as import
>   licensing), technical barriers to trade (including technical regulations,
>   standards and/or conformity assessment procedures) and sanitary and
>   phytosanitary measures.
>   - Views on general rules of origin and/or advice on appropriate rules of
>   origin for specific products or sectors.
>   - Advice on ?trade facilitation? issues (e.g. significant impediments
>   related to import procedures).
>   - Advice, views and experiences with customs procedures and with
>   commercial goods entering and/or leaving TPP countries.
>   - Advice, views and experiences regarding investment barriers faced by
>   Canadian investors in TPP countries, including restrictions imposed on
>   foreign ownership or entry to market, questions of transparency of
>   regulation, performance requirements (i.e. local content requirements,
> use
>   of local labour and services), and any other impediments/barriers.
>   - Advice and views on government procurement markets of interest to
>   Canadian suppliers and exporters to TPP countries, including the
> government
>   departments, agencies or enterprises of interest and the goods, services
> or
>   construction services that Canadian suppliers are interested in selling
> to
>   those government organizations. Note that participation in government
>   procurement may include bidding as the prime contractor or exporting
> goods
>   and/or services to the prime contractor who in turn bids on government
>   contracts.
>   - Advice, views and experiences regarding barriers (e.g. availability
>   and transparency of information, domestic preferences) when selling or
>   attempting to sell to governments of TPP countries.
>   - Views and experiences with the protection of intellectual property
>   rights.
>   - Advice and views on competition policy matters, including development
>   of possible cooperation mechanisms.
>   - Views on capacity-building measures that could assist developing
>   countries in achieving the objectives of the agreement.
>   - Views on ways to reflect the interests and values of Canadians in the
>   area of sustainable development, environmental protection and
> conservation.
>   - Views on ways to reflect the interests and values of Canadians in the
>   areas of workers? rights, human rights, transparency in business and
>   commercial practices and other social concerns, as they relate to TPP
>   countries.
>   - Views on other related issues not mentioned above.
>
> All interested parties are invited to submit their views by February 14,
> 2012. Please be advised that any information received as a result of this
> consultation will be considered as public information, unless explicitly
> stated otherwise. Submissions should include
>
>   1. the contributor?s name and address and, if applicable, his/her
>   organization, institution or business;
>   2. the specific issues being addressed; and
>   3. precise information on the rationale for the positions taken,
>   including any significant impact it may have on Canada?s domestic or
>   foreign interests.
>
> Contributions can be sent by email to consultations@ international.gc.ca,
> by fax to 613-944-3489 or by mail to Trade Negotiations Consultations
> (TPP), Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada, Trade Policy and
> Negotiations Division II (TPW), Lester B. Pearson Building, 125 Sussex
> Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0G2.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kim Bruning <kim at bruning.xs4all.nl>
> Date: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Spanish website blocking law implemented
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
>
> And canada is considering pushing back the public domain 20 years, under
> ... us influence yet again.
>
>       http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6225/125/
>
> (Proposed and existing) US policy (foreign and domestic) is not really
> in favor of wikimedia at the moment, is it? :-/
>
>
> sincerely,
>       Kim Bruning
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:11:24 +0400
> From: "Yaroslav M. Blanter" <putevod at mccme.ru>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>        <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <a928845e4d5d105163894dd69f1c005a at mccme.ru>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Actually, do we have somewhere a concise page with a list of say ten most
> urgent needs we need money for? Smth a banner can link to?
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
>
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