[Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

[Ziko van Dijk]

Indeed, I made use of my last day before leaving for Germany (5 days)
to present some thoughts about the affiliations, on that very talk
page.
Kind regards
Ziko

2012/12/28 Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>:
> Hi,
>
> it should probably be emphasized that this organization was founded against
> the advice of the Wikimedia Foundations' Affiliate Committee. It is not
> recognized at this point.
>
> I am also quite unhappy about the chosen name because of the obvious
> confusion that is to be expected. But speaking in general terms, you're
> indeed welcome to join the discussion about naming that has been going on
> for a while now, on
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Thematic_Organizations .
> While it is not likely to be possible to have a very rigid convention
> (thanks to the diversity in the scopes of these organizations) I would
> appreciate suggestions in how clarity can be achieved.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2012/12/28 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
>
>> Very nice! I'll expect a performance in Hong Kong!
>>
>> On a serious note, have you seen Geoff's comments on naming of affiliate
>> organisations?
>> On Dec 28, 2012 4:18 PM, "Ziko van Dijk" <vandijk at wmnederland.nl> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> > A week ago, as I found out now, a new association has been found in
>> > New York: "Wiki Med Foundation, Inc." (!). We have the Wikimedia
>> > Foundation, Inc., we have some other Wikimedias, we have MediaWiki...
>> > how is the ordinary man on the street supposed to have the slightest
>> > chance to understand the Wikimedia movement? He even confuses
>> > "Wikimedia" with "Wikileaks"...
>> > I know that that is not the case, but sometimes it even seems that
>> > Wikimedians do want to make the movement a terminogical labyrinth. The
>> > WMF came with a simple scheme for national chapters, with the formula
>> > "Wikimedia X" (with X being the name of the country). I wish something
>> > similar for thematic organizations and Wikimedia user groups, and not
>> > the advice to even avoid the term "Wikimedia". Confusing terms are a
>> > serious barrier for participation, on Wikipedia and in the larger
>> > movement.
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Ziko
>> >
>> >
>> >     If I could talk to the wiki folks, just imagine it
>> >     Chatting with a chick on IRC
>> >     Imagine talking on a talk page, buzzing from a banner
>> >     What a neat achievement that would be.
>> >
>> >     If I could talk to the wiki folks, learn their languages
>> >     Maybe take a data dump degree.
>> >     I'd study mastodon and diesel, camel case and weasel,
>> >     Interwiki, vandal and IP.
>> >
>> >     I would converse in C++ and Python,
>> >     And I would curse in fluent wikify.
>> >     If people asked me, can you speak sock puppetry,
>> >     I'd say, 'Of coursery, but why?'
>> >
>> >     If I conferred with our fuzzy friends, man to editor,
>> >     Think of the amazing repartee
>> >     If I could talk to the wiki folks, fork to the wiki folks,
>> >     Diff and rev and link with the wiki folks,
>> >     And they could diff and rev and link with me.
>> >
>> >     If I could speak CC-BY-SA
>> >     The advantages any sandbox noob could plainly see!
>> >     Discussing worldwide GLAM and drama
>> >     With oh so witty llama
>> >     That’s a big step forward you’ll agree!
>> >
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