[Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

Philippe Beaudette philippe at wikimedia.org
Sat Apr 28 06:43:04 UTC 2012

Birgitte, Andrew, thank you for your kind words.  True credit on this one
goes to Maggie, Geoff, and the community members who worked countless hours
with them and discussed in great detail almost every word of the thing.  I
think everyone involved would tell you that it was a thoughtful,
deliberative, and truly exhausting process.... but it was amazing in its
collegiality in the final product.

I'm proud to be part of the team that worked on this, but my role was
small... my hat is off to Maggie, Geoff, and all the others who
participated (below, I have listed everyone with more than 15 edits to the
talk page where it was developed.)

Community Members with more than 15 edits to the Talk page:

Mdennis (WMF)
Seth Finkelstein
Angel54 5
Seb az86556
Steven (WMF)
Philippe (WMF)
John Vandenberg
Rich Farmbrough
Григор Гачев

Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

415-839-6885, x 6643

philippe at wikimedia.org

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, <Birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Philippe Beaudette
> > <philippe at wikimedia.org>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> As you may be aware, Wikimedia has updated its Terms of Use.  This
> updated
> >> version will become effective on May 25, 2012, and can be reviewed
> >> here<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use_%282012%29/en
> >.[1]
> >> A short overview of some of the changes is set out
> >> here<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/New_Terms_of_use>.
> >> [2]
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >
> > Terms of use are boring, and most of us are pretty jaded by how
> > impenetrable, legalistic and, well, awful, most terms of use are on the
> > internet.
> >
> > I want to congratulate you and your department on NOT doing this. The new
> > terms of use are written in clear English, well set out, and cover what
> > seem to be the appropriate bases without being overly verbose and
> cautious.
> >
> > Well done, Philippe, Geoff, and everyone else.
> >
> >
> I am also impressed. It actually ends up being the best one piece
> introduction to what Wikimedia *is* that I have ever read.  A lot of
> thought and consideration were soundly invested in that document. Clarity
> on that level is HARD, but well worth the effort. I also am thinking that
> the staff have just set a rather high bar for the board. Imagine if all
> board resolutions were written with as just as much focus on clarity and as
> on circumspection. These terms of use show it is possible.
> Birgitte SB
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