[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 15:19:05 UTC 2012

<grin> you are providing a perfect reason why you might contribute to a WMF
based travel wiki... No adds </grin>

On 11 April 2012 17:16, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru> wrote:

> If you're serious about seeing it become the next Wikimedia sister project,
>> I'd focus on making a better case for how it falls within Wikimedia's
>> scope.
>> MZMcBride
>>  The scope has been extensively discussed in this thread, and a
> convincing answer has been given. This answer is that travel is an avenue
> of education, possibly a more important one than an encyclopedia (since
> visual impressions are the strongest), and everything which promotes
> educational travel thus falls within the scope of the movement.
> There are however other issues which were also discussed.
> 1. The existence of two projects, Wikitravel and Wikivoyage, with unclear
> position of both communities concerning the unification in general, and the
> unification under the WMF umbrella in particular.
> 2. A good travel guide usually selects information. For instance, a list
> of all resturants in Paris is useless. A list with comments or a star-rated
> list is more useful, but the most useful is  star-rated selection which
> only contains a very limited number of entries. It is not clear whether
> such selection is compatible with WMF principles, and if not, why do we
> want to have a useless project (which potentially will be dominated by the
> entries of the restaurants themselves). I note however that one of the
> functions of an encyclopaedia is selection of encyclopaedic information,
> and this is why we have these perennial battles about notability).
> 2a. A good travel guide caters to specific audience - e.g. backpackers,
> retirees, or adventure travelers. If it attempts catering to all travellers
> at the same time, it becomes useless.
> 3. My personal impression (of somebody who has an advanced knowledge of a
> subject) is that Wikitravel is just a very poor travel guide. For standard
> places like Paris it can not currently beat any of the major travel series.
> For non-standard places, it contains nothing. May be this is fixable, I do
> not know. However, the real reason I never contributed to Wikitravel are
> ads.
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
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