[Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

[とある白い猫]

  I am sorry but how is renaming ku.wikipedia to kmr.wikipedia a "Turkish
Nationalistic View"? Have you even read the proposal before assuming bad
faith? Do you understand how little the proposal intends to change?

   - The interwiki link for Sorani wikipedia is "کوردی" which means "Kurdi"
   or Kuridsh in Sorani dialect (this should perhaps include "سۆرانی‎‎"
   which means "Sorani").
   - Interwiki links for ku.wikipedia currently is Kurdî in latin script
   instead of dual Latin/Arabic script as Kurdish can be written in multiple
   scripts if we are referring to the macro-language Kurdish and not the
   Kurmanji dialect.
   - Interwiki links for kmr would probably be something like "Kurdî" or
   "Kurdî (Kurmancî)" as already discussed on the meta page.

  In other words from the perspective of interwiki links we may at most
include the dialect name in parenthesis to include the dialect of Kurdish.

  So in sum I proposed the macrolanguage code ku to be replaced with kmr to
properly represent the dialect the wiki covers with possible modification of
interwiki links label to specify the dialect. What motive could I have for
this (in your words "biassed") request?

  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)


On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 01:55, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, M. Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in
> > supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to
> those
> > of a group of Turkish soldiers who attempted to murder Kurdish women and
> > children. This game of nationalism and accusations is nothing new on
> > Wikipedia. I have been called a Russian, a Soviet, a Jew, a Kurdish
> > nationalist and many other things.
> >
> > I was even told once that I was an official enemy of the Romanian people
> and
> > that my name and face had been stored in a secret Romanian government
> > database of enemies of the Romanian nation and that I would be targeted
> for
> > elimination. So please, let's keep nationality out of this. I am not
> Turkish
> > but I am a linguist and a geek and this move makes linguistic and
> technical
> > sense. I am more a supporter of the aspirations of peoples to be
> > independent, but I'd rather not take sides in every single geopolitical
> > conflict because this does not need to be tied to that. It is a simple
> > technical and linguistic issue with two options for a solution that
> should
> > be chosen based on common sense, not nationalist sentiments or loyalties,
> > and I have chosen my side without those unnecessary influences.
> >
> >
>
> Mark, your objections would make sense if I had only said "Oh by the
> way, he's Turkish." I didn't. As a matter of fact, White Cat has an
> extensive history of being subject to dispute resolution, editing
> restrictions, blocks etc. for disruptive editing with a Turkish
> nationalist point of view. While I do understand that you may
> disagree, I personally think that strongly held biases in the matter
> at hand are relevant to the decision he asks the community to make.
>
> Nathan
>
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