[Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sun Oct 2 13:02:06 UTC 2011


Hoi,
I am here in Los Angeles with Amir. We have discussed the dead sea scrolls
extensively. We discussed transcription, fonts appropriate for such old
texts. The use of the text.

Do you believe that the suggestion for transcription was made by someone
from the museum at Wikimania? That Amit is WMF Israel board ? That I am
bored by the nonsence about all this ?

If all the words written had an equivalent in the transcription, I would
mind that it takes so few words to say sarcastic and furious.. can you not
elaborate (and transcribe more) ?
Thanks,
       GerardM

2011/10/2 emijrp <emijrp at gmail.com>

> I was not aggresive, but "sarcastic".
>
> But obviously, there are reasons for being furious.
>
> 2011/10/1 KIZU Naoko <aphaia at gmail.com>
>
> > Claiming copyright for religious works in use works also defense for
> > possible alteration the original publisher or editor may regard as
> > heretical. The similar happens in academia too. I know a certain
> > online text database based on a scanned PD works, but the publisher (a
> > certain academic society) denied even to put online publicly, they
> > claimed "otherwise the data would be erroneously changed, we'll send a
> > set of disks upon request for free, so everyone who needs can get the
> > data. It's the best way for our interest to keep the criticized text
> > in an appropriate level, avoid any corruption." There' a lot of this
> > kind anecdotes, I guess?
> >
> > Be relaxed, you have not to be so hostile, Emijrp. While we don't
> > agree with them in this point (firmly), we can still be polite and
> > they wouldn't disagree we share an ultimate goal to let the world
> > share the knowledge. As Liam suggested. On the other hand we should
> > understand they have their own revenue system - their own ecosystem
> > which has been built perhaps for centuries, so that we should have
> > them understand we don't want them to survive by exploring free access
> > and rather we would like them to cooperate and cohabit.
> >
> > It'll sure take a time, but I hope we go forward our mission without
> > being unnecessarily aggressive.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:42 PM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Chris Keating
> > > <chriskeatingwiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Finally, the Dead Sea Scrolls[1] have copyright[2]. Courtesy of The
> > Israel
> > >>> Museum. Congratulations.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> If the Dead Sea Scrolls were divinely inspired, like other Biblical
> > texts,
> > >> then there is an argument that the author is still alive.... ;-)
> > >>
> > >> (c) God, 2011
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Are there any jurisdictions where a religious texts have been refused
> > > a copyright for reason of being divine?
> > >
> > > There are a few legal cases about copyright of religious texts where
> > > the copyright has been given to the 'medium' / 'channeler'.
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_on_religious_works
> > >
> > > And there is the crown hold copyright on KJV, in perpetuity.
> >
> > As commentary, I'd like to add they put the Book of Common Prayer
> > under the crown hold copyright too, but also they haven't done so on
> > drafts, so that ongoing drat of BCP has been freely circulated and
> > could be discussed.
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Vandenberg
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