[Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

[KIZU Naoko]

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:38 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3 June 2011 17:21, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Poetlister is the level of case where project autonomy is an actively
>>> bad idea. e.g. en.wikiquote deciding to demonstrate their independence
>>> of en:wp by letting him onto the Checkuser list. Nice one.
>
>> Not to digress, but in fairness to the folks active on Wikiquote, I don't
>> think that WQ User:Cato had been identified as Poetlister at the time he was
>> made a checkuser there.

thanks Steven, it matches my remembrance. Cato was not identified as
such, and after that his right was suspended and unanimously revoked
in decision of the community.

>
>
> We had extremely strong suspicions, but the reasons some en:wq people
> gave for ignoring them was that they wouldn't be told what to do by
> en:wp.
>

For the record, EnWP checkusers / arbcom, at least some of them denied
to give EnWQ admins the evidence of Poetlister's sockpuppetry,
specially how they identified Poetlister with Rancorn. It was not just
of results of project autonomy but rather demanding blind trust and
obeying of English Wikipedia privileged users. If they behaved as if
they were overloads of all projects, their opinions couldn't be heard
with respect from the rest of the global community.

Cheers,


> I suspect there is more than a little of that in current local wiki
> defiance of global bans. And it's really, really not a good idea.
>
>
> - d.
>
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