[Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

[Thomas Morton]

Given the situation can we not be clear on the details of this?

I have various views on the matter, but all of them really depend on what
exactly this person did.

As with all such matters I see no reason why discussion of the details
cannot be conducted visibly, and if provided with the adequate level of
detail I would be happy to venture an opinion.

But precluding that, you are asking the views of a group of people who
probably do not have a full (or event partial) view of the facts of this
case... for which you are asking for a global response....

And you are then wondering why they question this issue!

I think there is no question is cases such as this; lay the details plainly,
and screw any pussy footing around the details. If this individual has a
history that means BAD THINGS will happen, I feel details will sway more
than allusions.

Tom


On 4 June 2011 00:36, Scott MacDonald <doc.wikipedia at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-
> > bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Vandenberg
> > Sent: 04 June 2011 00:10
> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Scott MacDonald
> > <doc.wikipedia at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >>
> > > On Behalf Of George Herbert
> > >> Right.  Merely staying pseudonymous or anonymous is supported, but
> > >> taking on some other real life person's identity on English Language
> > >> Wikipedia is clearly prohibited now, and should be.  It's bad for
> > all
> > >> the same reasons that real life identity theft is bad.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Woah
> > >
> > > Taking on some other real life person's identity on English Language
> > > Wikipedia IS real life identity theft!!!
> > >
> > > Remember, Wikipedia exists in the real world - not just in the one it
> > > creates.
> >
> > they are only allegations until proven in a real world court.  and
> > that has not happened.
> >
> > --
> > John Vandenberg
>
> Utterly irrelevant.
>
> Poetlister (or Mr Baxter, or whatever) pretended to be a woman - and used
> pictures of a real person of his acquaintance, without her permission - and
> this screwed up "assume good faith" and "there's only allegations" approach
> meant that we disbelieved the complaints made to us on behalf of the person
> concerned. That's on top of the socking, harassment, and lies he told the
> community. It looks like you are not recalling or aquatinted with the facts
> here.
>
> No, they have not been "tested in a court of law" but they remain clear and
> logical conclusions from evidence (and if I recall) the admissions of the
> individual concerned. Please let's stop making excuses for this.
>
> I suspect others will be in a better position to fill you in than I am.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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