[Foundation-l] [Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8]

Tue Feb 8 15:51:20 UTC 2011

As far as I'm aware, as a long standing matter of practice, WMF sites
run the latest stable or development Mediawiki, as a matter of "eating
our own dog food". That implies that the notice was merely a courtesy
because the change was expected to cause downtime, rather than a point
of discussion. My understanding is barring technical problems caused
by an upgrade, individual projects have about the same chances to
switch their project to Microsoft Sharepoint as they do to hold back
an upgrade. This may seem unusual because everything else revolves
around discussion, but the developers and sysadmins need consistency
to be able to support as many projects as WMF hosts - otherwise they'd
probably be looking at having 2-3 devs for each project in each
language, which is simply unfeasible even with WMF's resources.

-Stephanie

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> What would more notice achieve ?
>
> The process of installing release 1.17 is important. It did not succeed for
> now but I hope it will be tried again when feasible. There are improvements
> in 1.17 where people have been waiting for for a long time.
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> On 8 February 2011 15:58, Bartol Flint <winters1c at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Did this something to have do with the downtime today. I saw different
>> language project were not working at the same time. Some page still don't
>> look right. the box are broken and tools are not working.
>>
>> More notice earlier please. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bartol Flint
>> Student
>> Erasmus University Rotterdam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier at wikimedia.org
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Concerns have been raised that this needed wider distribution. Please
>> > note that it will happen in about 10 hours from now.
>> >
>> > -------- Message transféré --------
>> > De: Rob Lanphier <robla at wikimedia.org>
>> > Reply-to: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > À: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > Sujet: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8
>> > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:45:30 -0800
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Just repeating something I just posted to
>> > http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/02/planned-1-17-deployment/
>> >
>> > The engineering team is busy working on the deployment of the 1.17 branch
>> > of
>> > MediaWiki[1].  We plan to roll this out next week to all languages and
>> > projects, Tuesday, February 8, with work starting at 07:00 UTC (which is
>> > 11pm on Monday, February 7 for San Francisco).
>> >
>> > If all goes well, you should only notice the improvement. If it doesn’t
>> go
>> > well, that’s because there’s something we missed, and that’s where we’d
>> > love
>> > your help.  Please help us test this release! We have a test instance of
>> > the
>> > software we plan to deploy available at http://prototype.wikimedia.org/.
>> >  If
>> > you find issues, please report them in Bugzilla:
>> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla
>> >
>> > There are many, many little fixes and improvements that have gone into
>> 1.17
>> > (see the draft release notes[2] for an exhaustive list) .  There isn’t
>> much
>> > that’s visible to users of the site, but one under the hood improvement
>> > that
>> > should result in some speed improvements: Resource Loader[3].  Resource
>> > Loader optimizes the use of JavaScript in MediaWiki, speeding up delivery
>> > of
>> > JavaScript by compressing it sometimes, and cutting down on the amount of
>> > unused JavaScript that gets delivered to the browser in the first place.
>> >  Much of the work in this development cycle has been centered on ensuring
>> > compatibility with the new system.  Since it makes such a large shift in
>> > the
>> > way that JavaScript is delivered to the browser, it’s also an operational
>> > aspect we’ll be keeping a close eye on, as load shifts between servers in
>> > our infrastructure.
>> >
>> > Note that this isn’t a release for download, yet.  On and after February
>> 8,
>> > the “latest” version of MediaWiki will still be 1.16 as listed on
>> > mediawiki.org. We plan to update this to 1.17 sometime after the
>> > deployment
>> > of the 1.17 branch, after we’ve had time to run it in production for a
>> > while
>> > and fix the issues we’re likely to find.
>> >
>> > So please, help us test this release, and if you find bugs, please report
>> > them in Bugzilla.  Thanks!
>> >
>> > Rob
>> >
>> > [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap/1.17
>> > [2]
>> >
>> >
>> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_17/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?view=co
>> > [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader
>> > [4] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download
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>> > Guillaume Paumier
>> > Product manager - Wikimedia Foundation
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