[Foundation-l] Plea for candidates: WMF Movement Communications Manager

[Béria Lima]

I don't see how can be discriminative Sarah.

I (and all no english speaker here) needed to - at some point of their lifes
- start to study a second language. We all have problems to speak in a
language we are not native and had to spent years to be good in it. The ad
forces us to speak one specific language. I.e., if i'm fluent (I'm not) in
Portuguese, German, French, Spanish, Italian, Arabic and Japanese but don't
speak english, i can't apply. The only thing required for english speaker is
be able to talk in other language (*any *language). How that can be
discrimative?
_____
*Béria Lima*
<http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.***


2011/4/15 Sarah <slimvirgin at gmail.com>

> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:29, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 15 April 2011 15:17, Sarah <slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:07, Béria Lima <berialima at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Is not a Bias Sarah. Anyone can apply, but they have to know english
> (if
> >> not
> >> > as 1º language as 2º one) and another language (if english is the 1º
> >> one).
> >> > If this person is american, chinese, brazilian or african (i imagine)
> >> that
> >> > really don't care
> >> > _____
> >> > *Béria Lima*
> >> > <http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484
> >>
> >> It doesn't say that, Béria. It seems to say that, ideally, the
> >> successful applicant will not have English as a first language, i.e.
> >> will not be from most of Canada, the United States, Australia, New
> >> Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Barbados, Trinidad and
> >> Tobago, and several more.
> >>
> >> That rules out a huge number of Wikimedians (most, in fact) just
> >> because of their birthplace and culture.
> >>
> >> The ad says: "Demonstrated ability to work (speak, read, write at a
> >> professional level) effectively in a language other than English
> >> (ideally as a native speaker)"
> >>
> >>
> > Not quite sure where you're coming from there.  Today I've interacted
> with
> > about 60 professional colleagues. They're all Canadians but I'd venture
> to
> > guess that at least a third would consider themselves native speakers of
> at
> > least one other language.
>
> Not sure what you mean, Risker. The point is that the ad is
> discriminating against people who are native English speakers, i.e.
> because of their origins and culture. The question is whether that's
> allowed under whatever employment legislation governs the hiring. And
> law apart, it seems unfair.
>
> Sarah
>
> _______________________________________________
> foundation-l mailing list
> foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
>