[Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

Rich Holton richholton at gmail.com
Sat Jun 26 19:31:24 UTC 2010


Please, someone confirm for me that he was not put on moderation because of
his views, but rather because of his behavior!

-Rich Holton

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Peter Gervai <grinapo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 17:50, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure whether I am though. This message plus the discussion
> >> that was the base of it has cost me 50 Euros in things I broke
> >> throwing them through my room, plus a severe loss of feeling of
> >> self-worth. I don't think that's worth it.
> >
> > By the way I'm sure there are several of us who agree in Jefrrey being
> > very much off limits, offending, and doing it at the wrong place,
> > which is usually shortened as "being a troll".
> >
> > Wikipedia, wikimedia and the people around here are working with,
> > based on and most definitely agree with open content and other free
> > licenses, the whole project lives of and based on them, so starting a
> > propaganda against it _HERE_ is definitely a very unwise and offending
> > move. Without much thinking it's obvious that it will generate strong
> > emotions, harsh attacks, and lots of ad hominem debates, and nothing,
> > really nothing good will be created as a result.
> >
> > Not accepting the fact that people who create open content are going
> > to fight against businesses who try to destroy open content is a
> > clueless thing to do. Debating it is similarly clueless act. You do
> > not start debate someone's existence with him.
> >
> > I (among others) strongly agree in Jeffrey being moderated until he
> > realise that his propaganda really does not belong here. It is against
> > almost everybody's world view around here, and offending a whole
> > community with reasons we consider at best baseless is extremely
> > counterproductive.
> >
> >
> > And, as a sidenote, we're not pirates, robbers, murderers or rapers.
> > [And other artifically emotion-filled buzzwords supporting the
> > closed-content based businesses, pick your favourite.] We _create_
> > open content. We _create_ copyrighted materials (and license them for
> > free). Jeffrey, among others, is using our products, our content. That
> > is what Creative Commons is about. To protect our interests, business
> > or other. And who are you, or anyone, to attack our interests based on
> > our own content...?
> >
> > And as a different sidenote: if you hate it, stop using it. Try to
> > live your life without using open source, open content. Go on. First,
> > stop using this list, because it is run on open source software,
> > running on open source servers. Then you may well unplug your internet
> > connection, since good chance is that you connect to one of such
> > servers. You mostly better stop using the web, since the servers are
> > open source by large. Stop email. You may even have to avoid some
> > mobile phones, Tv set top boxes, DVD players, music players, and so
> > on. Oh and avoid Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia content, and mostly
> > all wikis. Fortuinately you can eat and drink and breath. But avoid
> > computers since they'll surely pollute your business-based pureness
> > with open content filth. *smirk*
>
> I first checked is he a board member of WM AU. Fortunately, he is not.
>
> I am agreed with everything, except that there are some of us who
> politically support free usage of copyrighted material. And I didn't
> know that Lessig supports it. Thanks to Ottava, I am positively
> changing my position toward Lessig.
>
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