[Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

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Sat Jun 26 10:06:05 UTC 2010

Jeffrey Peters wrote:
> David Gerard,
> This list is not for your political advocacy.
> Now, stop trolling.
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122367645363324303.html
> The founder of Creative Commons is a very prominent pirate and promoter of
> piracy in addition to CC. That has been established for a long time and he
> was proud of that fact.
> Do I have to request your termination for abuse of this list?

To be fair Lessig was focusing on 30 seconds of distorted background 
music in a home movie (which was a fair-use), and the remixing of music 
and video to create some mashup which has in itself some creative input. 
Lessig is really only concerned with the later issues and has often 
stood out against the straight copy. In particular he declined to speak 
up for Tenenbaum. “P2P filesharing is wrong and kid’s shouldn’t do it,”

The problem with the mashups is that there is no clear way to license 
the different parts, to do so would probably be prohibitively expensive 
for the masher upper, and in some cases licenses may well be refused. 
Legislators are currently feeling the weight of this themselves as their 
campaigns are using mashups and being hit by DMCA takedown notices and 
lawsuits by the copyright owners. McCain, DeVore ...

The licensing issue is the thing that needs sorting. A balance has to be 
struck between the masher upper and the legitimate claims of the 
creators of the works. Some have suggested that the service provider 
should be paying a fee for the content hosted.

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