[Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

Jeffrey Peters 17peters at cardinalmail.cua.edu
Fri Jun 25 23:39:00 UTC 2010

Dear James,

If that was what Michael was saying, then I apologize for what I said to
him. However, I think the problem could be is that some people see only what
wired.com says (i.e. targetting Creative Commons, etc) and not the law that
was being passed that the backers of those were in opposition to (i.e. the
anti-piracy law. As I pointed out in the WSJ article, was something Lawrence
Lessig would be against as he wanted, if you read the very end, to end any
enforcement of copyright laws against P2P people, which happens to be
blatant piracy).

I am all for my chosing to release my content without any copyright
restrictions. I am against forcing everyone to do the same, as there is a
lot of content of my own that I do not release freely and I would not want
to be released freely.

Jeffrey Peters
aka Ottava Rima

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:34 PM, James Alexander <jamesofur at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeffrey Peters <
> 17peters at cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote:
> > Dear Michael,
> >
> > I find it problematic that you suggest that yourself or the Foundation
> > would
> > speak out against this, when the law in question is about terminating the
> > access to those who have been caught pirating material in violation of
> set
> > copyright multiple times.
> >
> > This is problematic because Wikipedia has a huge plagiarism and copyvio
> > problem that is caused by the same people that would come under conflict
> > above.
> >
> > This clearly would not affect those who freely license their own
> material,
> > which is what Wikipedia and the WMF is about. I've donated thousands of
> > hours and hundreds of megs of my own material and my own effort. I find
> it
> > a
> > slap in the face that you would then make such statements.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jeffrey Peters
> > aka Ottava Rima
> >
> >
> I think that Michael was talking about speaking against them if they were
> targeting the CC license itself (he was responding to my comment about the
> CC licenses). Given that those are the licenses we use (and that a large
> pillar of our projects is having as much of our information available under
> licenses like it) it would make sense that we want to be aware of what was
> happening and make sure our reasoning was out there.
> I, like you, think the issue of the ISP rule is different. In many ways I
> actually support the 3 strikes rule .It isn't perfect in my mind but much
> better then the lawsuits which I think harmed the industry far more then it
> helped. I went to many court cases out of interest and while some were very
> interesting (there were a couple people that to be honest probably deserved
> to be sued) most were a mass of depression.
> James Alexander
> james.alexander at rochester.edu
> jamesofur at gmail.com
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