[Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

Ryan Kaldari rkaldari at wikimedia.org
Fri Jun 25 23:30:23 UTC 2010

I can think of an example where someone had to buy lyrics: When the 
creators of the Eyes on The Prize civil rights documentary wanted to 
republish their documentary on DVD so that a new generation of people 
could see how institutionalized racism was overcome through decades of 
bloody struggle, Warner Music demanded that they pay $10,000 for the 
right to use a clip of people singing Happy Birthday to Martin Luther 
King Jr on his birthday since Warner owned the lyrics to Happy Birthday. 
This delayed the republishing of the documentary for years. Fortunately, 
the Ford Foundation donated the money so that Warner Brothers could be 
properly paid and wouldn't have to resort to begging for change on the 
street corner.

Ryan Kaldari

On 6/25/10 4:18 PM, WJhonson at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 6/25/2010 3:55:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> 17peters at cardinalmail.cua.edu writes:
>> Do I have to request your termination for abuse of this list?>>
> Why do I envision the Red Queen and the White Queen when I read that
> remark?
> David Gerard cut off your own head!  Do it immediately!
> But on a lighter note.
> Whether or not the owner/author/creator/inventor of CC advocates piracy or
> doesn't, is not material at all to what the *contributors* to CC are
> actually doing.
> As far as "music lyrics", since when can you actually buy the lyrics to any
> piece of music, anywhere, ever, at any time, whatsover?
> You BUY sheet music, or a song book, or a performance.
> I've never, in my entire life, seen "lyrics" for sale by themself.
> So please provide a place where they are. Otherwise you cannot protect the
> profit from something from which there is no profit and was never intended
> to be.
> Next caller!
> Will "the slammer" Johnson
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