[Foundation-l] Encouraging participation

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Sun Jun 20 18:29:30 UTC 2010

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On 20/06/2010 03:25, Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
> But now it's standard for any site to have well-structured "facepages"
> (profiles) to provide for academic the mean to:
> * properly introduce himself/herself;
> * get the idea about who is some other contributor/peer;
> * communicate with other people in well-structured way (structured by
> groups with particular interests etc.) with modern means to express
> support of one's opinion etc.
It seems founded.

> So my point is not increase of distraction from content (as main
> object of contributor care, intended care I would stress) but the
> opposite - significant decrease of such distraction by eliminating the
> need of DIY self-care (which is not intended at all).
I think it would be interesting to develop this idea.

> The last but far not least: if we really would like to attract more
> academics we have to change socialization policies and/or traditions
> as academics (most of them) don't like/appreciate blind (anonymous)
> peer cooperation.
We could make a "expert" class of users, widely known, with admin powers
on pages of their domain of expertise, with the possibility to lock
articles temporarily from normal editors during edit wars. But they
should be expected to give fair attention to alternatives, and respect
the NPOV. They would still respond to admins and superadmins. Or would
it be too conflicting with the wikimedians principles? I'm always
dubious about compromises, because they generally achieve no other goal
that artificial consensus at the cost of the conflicting goals.

> Or we can look at that in such way: if we are
> talking about credibility of content we have to talk about credibility
> of contributors as peers in teamwork first.
Maybe convincing internationally recognized experts to contribute
articles as wp users (like Hawking on Astrophysics) would start the
desire among experts to have a say among their peers? So wp could become
a little more a place of exchange of expert knowledge.

> That's why we will need as much of real&exact info on "facepages" as
> possible plus as much de-"virtualization" by mean of meetups as
> possible. Look on experience of de:WP.
Why not create Wikipedians clubs in localities and schools that try to
maintain a few pages about specific information dear to the members, yet
still of encyclopedic value, like the local history or cultural
highlights or natural wonders or a local artist or project, or just a
shared dream, a story, a feeling, a song, etc.

Why not propose to schools to publish the adventurous projects of each
classes in a special section of the WMF foundation ?

> Sincerely,
> Pavlo
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:16 AM, James Heilman <jmh649 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> To attract academics this is and must be viewed as a serious endeavor.
>>  Yes some aspects such as reverting vandalism could have a fun twist
>> applied to them but the creation of content must remain simple and
>> serious.  Wikipedia already has a problem with its image regarding
>> credibility.  Things that would affect Wikipedia's image must be
>> carefully considered.  I personally do not need further distraction
>> while I edit.  Medpedia http://www.medpedia.com/ has more of a
>> facebook appearance to it and for that among other reasons I will not
>> contribute their.  We need to keep our goal of writing an encyclopedia
>> first and foremost.
>> --
>> James Heilman
>> MD, CCFP-EM, B.Sc.
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