[Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Mariano Cecowski marianocecowski at yahoo.com.ar
Sun Jun 6 21:57:53 UTC 2010

I can't believe that with all the complains no one has yet brought up the fact that the 'watch' has been replaced by a star that turns blue instead of yellow.

I always think I don't have the page in my watchlist!!!

Now, that's a reason to complain (Lynch the usability team!)


--- El dom 6-jun-10, Victor Vasiliev <vasilvv at gmail.com> escribió:

> De: Victor Vasiliev <vasilvv at gmail.com>
> Asunto: Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2
> Para: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Fecha: domingo, 6 de junio de 2010, 17:40
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Erik
> Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > The original intent of the UX team, as I understand
> it, was to help
> > readers find essential (frequently clicked) elements
> in the navigation
> > more easily by collapsing less essential ones.
> This is wrong approach of reworking sidebar. To do it
> correctly, you
> have to prioritize existing things. Add icons to most
> important items
> and move them to the top (random article is far more
> popular than
> current events). Move toolbox to the bottom and, ensuring
> youself
> before that most users don't use it, hide it for anonymous
> users only.
> Move most probably used interwikis to the top (I'd
> volunteer for
> coding this if I was sure I had enough spare time this
> summer). Add
> language codes, they are much easier to understand and to
> look for in
> a long list than a language name in language itself. Add
> more icons,
> so things are distinguishable.
> Oh, and no wonder that IW links are used less in Vector
> than in
> Monobook. Monobook sidebar has clear division between
> blocks. Vector
> has some loosy line between them. Also, in Vector sidebar
> elements are
> on the grey background, so most people don't notice them.
> Honestly,
> the set of blue links on the grey background is one of the
> worst thing
> you may introduce to improve the usability of the sidebar.
> --vvv
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