[Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Fri Jun 4 08:42:30 UTC 2010

When you look where what languages have their biggest audience, you will be
surprised. The notion of most likely languages is either based on such
statistics or it is only guess work. The best performance is when people can
choose the languages involved.

It would make sense to combine this with the Babel extension...

On 4 June 2010 02:59, Howie Fung <hfung at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Per Erik M.'s previous post, we're working on a compromise solution
> whereby we show a list based on user's most likely language(s), probably
> based on browser, and then a "see other languages" link which would
> expand to give all the other langauages.  We're also looking at changing
> the word "Languages" into something that's more descriptive of what the
> links actually do.
> I've created the following page for more discussion/proposals on the topic:
> http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opinion:_Language_Links
> Howie
> On 6/3/10 4:41 PM, David Goodman wrote:
> > It would be nice to actually have a place at the usability wiki to
> > discuss this.
> >
> > My own view is that the actual list of languages was the ideal
> > interface object in   fulfilling many purposes (as discussed in the
> > posts above) and implying multiple levels of understanding without the
> > need for explanation or discussion. For example, that it   varied
> > authomatically from article to article   showed the overall level of
> > progress on the multiple projects.
> >
> > In showing Wikipedia to new users this list was always noticed and
> > proved a very expressive statement.
> >
> > The attitude shown by Trevor's reply speaks for itself in terms of the
> > relationship between the "internal" experts and  the community. I
> > think that it was his wording that induced me to finally post on the
> > issue.
> >
> >
> >> I fixed it (it's a one-line change), but Trevor reverted it:
> >>
> >>> This goes against an intentional design
> >>> decision. To discuss that decision further and submit proposals to
> change this
> >>> design please contact Howie Fung<hfung at wikimedia.org>  or visit
> >>> http://usability.wikimedia.org
> >>>
> >
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