[Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Thu Jun 3 19:48:18 UTC 2010

An other nice back-of-the-envelope calculation compares developers and
localisers. Suppose that for a particular job a developer costs 100 and a
localiser for one language costs 1. What is more expensive / valuable, the
development of software or the localisation of the same software?

At translatewiki.net we localise in over three hundred languages ..

This does not take into account the internationalisation and other
management that needs to be done as well.

On 3 June 2010 16:04, <susanpgardner at gmail.com> wrote:

> James, you're right. I did back-of-the-envelope calculations last year,
> which don't bear scrutiny but are useful for ballparks. If you assume every
> word added to the projects is worth a dollar (it isn't, for a variety of
> reasons, but it's what professional journalists are often paid) -- then I
> believe volunteers contributed about 700 million dollars of work to the
> projects in 2008-09.  I think --but am not sure-- that that number excluded
> talk pages.
> It's not a number we would ever use publicly, because as I said it doesn't
> bear scrutiny -- but it does suggest that the value of editors' time vastly
> outweighs the value of donated cash.  It's not a competition, and we value
> every contribution of any kind..... But it's obvious that in our unique
> context, editors are the main source of value, and the main contributors to
> impact.
> I liked that Zack understood that, and I liked that he wanted the
> organization to appropriately understand and value both types of
> contributors. (Not to mention contributions of code, PR work, organizational
> work, and so forth.)
> Thanks,
> Sue
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Alexander <jamesofur at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:54:45
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List<foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global Development
>        Officer and new Chief Community Officer
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Sue Gardner <sgardner at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > I am really happy to announce two important new Wikimedia Foundation
> > hires.  Zack Exley will be Wikimedia's new Chief Community Officer,
> > and Barry Newstead will be our Chief Global Development Officer.  Both
> > will start just before Wikimania, and will join us in Gdansk.
> >
> Aye grats both to the two new hires and to the Foundation they look like
> great choices.
> Without trying a risk a sidetrack to much: I have to agree with the idea of
> the fundraising being with everyone else here and I'm really happy to see
> that. With the possible exception of the major/foundation gifts (which you
> could I guess separate off but it would be odd to have them separate from
> the rest of fundraising I think) our donors OUR our community in all ways.
> Not only do our readers and editors donate themselves (from what I
> understand that is the majority (i.e the annual campaign) but also
> the volunteers themselves are donors at least in my mind even without
> any monetary support. Their time is what makes us good.
> James Alexander
> james.alexander at rochester.edu
> jamesofur at gmail.com
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