[Foundation-l] Strategic Planning Office Hours

geni geniice at gmail.com
Tue Jun 1 23:20:03 UTC 2010

On 1 June 2010 23:39, Eugene Eric Kim <eekim at blueoxen.com> wrote:
> pain. Hey how hard can it be to wing it?
> You're confusing the agendas of a Task Force to the office hours of
> the strategy process as a whole. As stated at:
> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours
> the goals of these office hours are to answer questions and engage in
> discussion. These are not formal meetings, but a designated period
> where Philippe and I make ourselves available to interact with people
> in real-time. We keep the agenda open, but at the same time, we also
> do our best to keep the discussion relevant. And, as with the strategy
> process as a whole, we've worked hard to maintain an environment of
> constructive, positive discourse.

Removing the ability to raise problems with a suggestion is a great
way to render discourse pointless. It in effect makes a virtue of
[[en:not even wrong]].

> The decision to kick geniice off the channel was mine. You can read
> the log to see how the discussion evolved and my explanation for why I
> made this decision:
> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/2010-06-01
> I don't think foundation-l is the appropriate place to discuss these
> specific grievances, and I'm happy to continue this discussion on
> strategy wiki's Village Pump. That said, I think we have a strong
> record for openness and tolerance of all views, as long as the
> discussion has remained polite and constructive, and I'm happy to
> address any general questions about this here.

You have demonstrated a preparedness to shut down lines of debate you
don't like. This being the case there is no rational reason why I
would chose to raise issues with your actions in places where you were
able to continue to take such actions.


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