[Foundation-l] Wikipedia articles based on Wikileaks material

Fred Bauder fredbaud at fairpoint.net
Sun Dec 12 22:28:52 UTC 2010

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User:Fred Bauder

> Fred Bauder, so far as I know, INAL. It's pretty sad that so many
> prominent Wikipedians hold the truth of the world to be in such low
> disregard.
> On 12/12/10, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, raw data is a primary source and therefore likely unsuitable for
>>>> en:wp.
>>>> The raw data is, however, US government public domain and therefore
>>>> suitable for Wikisource as an important historical text (which it
>>>> is).
>>>> Possibly when the whole collection has been released and there is
>>>> context to give. Particularly notable cables might be worth curating
>>>> for their importance.
>>> I'm not so sure about that. These materials are coming from the US
>>> government, but they have not been published by the US government. It
>>> depends on the exact text of the law, but I do think it's likely that
>>> the government PD is about material both created and published by the
>>> government rather than just created. Even if not, there might still be
>>> a restriction that it only holds for work that has been legally
>>> published.
>>> --
>>> André Engels, andreengels at gmail.com
>> The information is classified; republishing it is a crime in the United
>> States; Wikipedia is hosted in the United States. We would not be
>> alone,
>> but could be made an example of. Not likely, but not something to waste
>> limited resources on, IMO. What does our republication or link to the
>> material add in terms of information for the reader, other than ready
>> access to primary data?
>> In contrast to WikiLeaks, neither our principals nor our corporation is
>> anonymous. The barn door is open; the secrets are running wild in the
>> world; should we catch them and put them in our pasture? Solidarity?
>> Duty
>> to the truth? Do the right thing? Viva la Revolution!?
>> Fred
>> User:Fred Bauder
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