[Foundation-l] Moderate this list

Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shevelo at gmail.com
Fri Sep 11 21:29:21 UTC 2009


> Yes. You are right about that. So, may we (insiders) promise not to
> have such discourse? :)

It's a problem with mailing versus face to face meeting: it's
impossible to see whether you crossed your heart or crossed you
fingers while writing that :-P

[Disclaimer: It's just Friday evening joke, sorry if somebody minds/objects]

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> As someone who does not think heavy-moderation is a good answer to the problem, I think you are missing the point.
>>
>> These bold/imprudent sort of people have useful contributions in sharing their positions.  It is the way they ridicule others who have different positions that is the problem.  BTW this is not limited only to those generally critical of WMF, there are supporters of WMF that have the same problem.  The end result of this behavior is that there less participation from people not comfortable with the ridicule.  And the people who are less likely to participate because of this is not equally spread across cultures.  So it hurts our outreach and it hurts our general purpose because we end up hearing thoughts from a much less diverse group than we might.
>>
>> Two examples of the tone I find to be such a problem
>>
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-August/054235.html
>>
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-August/054159.html
>>
>> I honestly believe that as long as this sort of tone continues to be a regular feature here; the overwhelming majority of participants here will be Western men.
>
> Yes. You are right about that. So, may we (insiders) promise not to
> have such discourse? :)
>
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