[Foundation-l] WSJ on Wikipedia

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Mon Nov 23 19:04:26 UTC 2009


Hoi,
I wonder if the WSJ can be found in the British Australian Canadian New
Zealand .... libraries ... also books are available for years the copy of
the day may be available in a library, but how about last years copy of the
WSJ ? Do you really think the WSJ can be found in every USA library ??
Thanks.
    GerardM

2009/11/23 David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com>

> And the WSJ can be found in essentially every library in the English
> speaking world also. There is thus a free way to verify--much more
> easily than 99.99% of books.
>
>
> David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi.
> > Maybe. However the request was to make available articles that are not
> > freely available.. Posting them somewhere so that people who do not have
> > access can formulate an opinion is probably not even legally allowed.
> >
> > A book can be found in a library and consequently there is a way to
> verify.
> > Thanks,
> >    GerardM
> >
> > 2009/11/23 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) <newyorkbrad at gmail.com>
> >
> >> By that logic, a book, which costs money to buy, would never be a
> >> "verifiable source" either.
> >>
> >> We might *prefer* to cite free (gratis) accessible sources over others,
> all
> >> things being equal, but the fact that a source is behind a paywall does
> not
> >> negate verifiability.
> >>
> >> Newyorkbrad
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Gerard Meijssen <
> >> gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hoi,
> >> > Given that the WSJ is making a lot of noise about moving all its
> content
> >> > behind a paywall and is planning to remove its headlines from the
> "prying
> >> > eyes" of Google, I think it is appropriate to honour their wish and no
> >> > longer consider the WSJ as a verifiable source. It is appropriate
> because
> >> > it
> >> > is the direct consequence of their actions.
> >> >
> >> > When this means that the blogs are part and parcel of this wish, then
> we
> >> > should not try to circumvent this even when they write about us.
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >     GerardM
> >> >
> >> > 2009/11/23 William Pietri <william at scissor.com>
> >> >
> >> > > A reporter pal points out to me that the  Wall Street Journal has a
> >> > > front page story on Wikipedia: "Volunteers Log Off as Wikipedia
> Ages".
> >> > > Alas, it's subscriber-only:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125893981183759969.html
> >> > >
> >> > > There's also a publicly viewable blog article "Is Wikipedia Too
> >> > > Unfriendly to Newbies?", and an interview with their reporters:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/11/23/is-wikipedia-too-unfriendly-to-newbies/
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://online.wsj.com/video/news-hub-wikipedia-volunteers-quit/BB9E24E7-2A18-4762-A55E-4D9142975029.html
> >> > >
> >> > > I suspect it's nothing we haven't been talking about for a while,
> but
> >> if
> >> > > anybody with access has a chance to summarize the main points, I'd
> find
> >> > > that helpful in replying to the friends who will inevitably be
> asking
> >> > > about this. If not because of this article, then from the other
> >> > > reporters that I presume will be joining in shortly.
> >> > >
> >> > > William
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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