[Foundation-l] Minors and sexual explicit stuff

stevertigo stvrtg at gmail.com
Wed Nov 18 21:41:31 UTC 2009


Gregory Kohs <thekohser at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for confirming your opinion that the Foundation cannot and
> should not find within its means to even formulate some
> recommendations and guidelines to help steer the activities of
> children on Wikimedia projects, because that is something that parents
> alone should be doing on a case-by-case basis.

Well, let's keep in mind what's really going on here is that a lot of
Wikipedians are in fact rather young people - teenagers or recent
teenagers - all of whom have to some degree a latent uncomfortable
grievance against the coddling and growth-stunting mentalities often
associated with "good parenting." But to be fair, some also seem to
have some good ideas about how exactly to use the web - both as a
means to help themselves and to help others.

So your point about this vague concept called "social responsibility,"
and how Wikipedia might need some of it, may be falling on some deaf
ears - even if it is quite valid. Your straw man argument may not have
helped much though, and probably violates some general rule (or
"law"). Anyhow both sides seem here to be under some illusion that
Wikipedia and its "freedoms" allow the manifestation of expressions
that exceed common sense.

We still do employ common sense, though attempts to document those
sensibilities as a principle have thus far been thwarted: There is
always the fear that any new "principle" will be written in some
unprincipled way - such as to either undermine the aberrations that
people like, or to promote the principles that people don't.

And actually that self-fellatio image looks also like an OR violation.

-Stevertigo




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