[Foundation-l] Pissed off at en:Wikisource

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Thu Mar 12 08:03:27 UTC 2009


Birgitte SB wrote:
> Sorry but there is no reason to have a RFC on Meta for anything remotely like this situation.  And I would say that if were regarding any wiki (I am sure I have said that for similar situations on other wikis in the past).  The wikis are autonomous on these issues.  If someone has reason why en.WS adminship rules are incompatible with the general purposes of the project, then please share.  Otherwise discuss in the proper forum which is en.WS.
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>   
I have since the very beginning been a strong supporter of project 
autonomy, and have usually been very critical of anyone who tries to 
impose the rules of other projects in Wikisource.  Last summer, when 
another de-sysop process happened, I also spoke strongly against 
allowing ourselves to be overly influenced by that person's overly bad 
behaviour on other projects; I conservatively concurred with what 
happened based solely on events at wikisource.

In the course of the discussion about me, I considered coming here at an 
early stage, but decided that I would let things play out on wiki 
first.  I did not raise the issue here until a few days after the 
decision was closed and implemented.

If I had not commented on events here, would you have noticed it, and 
would it even have crossed your mind to comment as you did above?  Given 
the still relatively small community at en:ws, where does one turn for a 
calmer and more objective analysis from someone who is not a part of the 
apparent piling on?  If the result of raising the issue here is a fairer 
discussion on wiki, I can't complain about that.  There should always be 
a place for off-wiki safety valves.

I see that you have asked a question on my talk page, so I will address 
more specific matters there shortly.

Ec




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