[Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia
Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Thu Aug 20 21:21:41 UTC 2009
Hoi,
I wrote articles on all the fish of the Benelux. I cheered when I was done..
Nobody else did. What we need is to celebrate something that has meaning to
all. Articles do that better then anything I know.
The thing with news is that it needs to be told. That is why I blog for
instance, how else do I explain that a GLAM is not about getting images for
Wikipedia but that they provide the basis for the credibility of the
illustrations we use. Compare that to article numbers, there is the suspense
of the numbers rising to this magical number... It is a great show, and
while it may have limited meaning, it gives a more universal sense of
accomplishment.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/8/20 Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk at googlemail.com>
> Hi Gerard,
> Indeed, people need news. But they can be produced also with more
> sence having accomplishments: All mayors of our capital have an
> article, the 50 most important folk singers, great illustrated
> articles on the fauna and flora of our region...
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> 2009/8/20 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> > Hoi,
> > For some of our smaller projects, the number of articles are the only
> > milestones available. It is necessary to celebrate progress. It is
> > meaningful when the Swahili Wikipedia becomes the biggest African
> language
> > Wikipedia. It is meanigful when you compare it with most of the other
> > African language projects that have no life in them.
> >
> > I agree that on many levels the numbers game is of little relevance
> however
> > it becomes relevant when there is a need for the celebration of progress
> in
> > a project. A need to be motivated to go on with the gigantic task that is
> > writing a Wikipedia.
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> > 2009/8/20 Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk at googlemail.com>
> >
> >> I couldn't agree more, Erik. Not paying attention to "milestones" is
> >> the first and best step; Wikipedia:Signpost should start with it.
> >> Ziko
> >>
> >> 2009/8/20 Erik Zachte <erikzachte at infodisiac.com>:
> >>
> >> > I concur wholeheartedly. Focusing on rising article counts gave us a
> >> thrill
> >> > for many years, and now it is difficult to kick the bad habit.
> >>
> >> > On a small wikipedia (at least most of them) there is simply not
> enough
> >> of a
> >> > community to drive this semi automated article creation process.
> >> >
> >> > I think it would help if we discouraged any bragging on the 4th
> millionth
> >> > article in the English Wikipedia at all and downplayed any inquiries
> from
> >> > the media.
> >> >
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