[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

[Birgitte SB]

I don't know that it is useful to make a general policy for exceptions.  I think it is better just to watch out for such problems to pop up and try to direct attention to them when they are noticed.  

I think it is a better use of time and energy to wait and react to the sorts of extreme situation you suggest, rather than to seek to proactively verify that no wikis are in danger of developing such situations.  Not that I would stop anyone form volunteering to take such task on.  It is just that it is very tricky.  It probably would be more effective to wait till the locals complain and ask for help than to try and step in and accuse admins, who likely have put the most time and edits into the wiki, of mismanagement.  Oftentimes locals that even have disagreements with the admins will be inclined to oppose your interference on the principal of solidarity, the devil you know, etc.  It is very touchy situation that leans towards misunderstandings even when everyone speaks the same language.

Birgitte SB

--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 3:41 PM
> I'm talking about more general
> policy, not ja.wp in particular.
> 
> On 8/7/09, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > There are always extreme situations that merit
> exceptional treatment.
> > ja.WP, however, has a great deal more than 3 active
> users.
> >
> > Birgitte SB
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy
> Interlingual Coordinationn -
> >> WP:NOT
> >> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> >> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:45 PM
> >> Alright, but what about the case of a
> >> Wiki where there are perhaps 3
> >> active users, and the administrator is imposing
> their will?
> >> It is the
> >> Foundation that gave the admins the power in the
> first
> >> place. I do
> >> believe that _most_ issues people want the
> Foundation to
> >> get involved
> >> in are best dealt with locally, but I feel there
> are some
> >> that should
> >> be dealt with at a higher level. Simply letting a
> >> megalomaniac run a
> >> Wiki as if it were their own personal fiefdom
> seems
> >> unacceptable to
> >> me.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Birgitte SB<birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia
> Policy
> >> Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT
> >> >> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> >> >> <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> >> >> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:38 PM
> >> >> This problem of one or two
> >> >> strong-willed admins enforcing their
> will
> >> >> over others is not an uncommon problem at
> smaller
> >> Wikis. In
> >> >> many
> >> >> cases, uncommon or strange
> orthographies,
> >> nonstandard
> >> >> dialects, or
> >> >> strange editing rules have been enforced;
> people
> >> who
> >> >> complain are
> >> >> often ignored and referred back to the
> Wiki by
> >> foundation
> >> >> people
> >> >> because it's a "local" matter.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The problem of a user dissatisfied with the
> actions of
> >> local administrators is not uncommon on any wiki.
>  When
> >> people dissatisfied with local enforcement of
> non-foundation
> >> issues complain here they are often properly
> informed that
> >> it is a local matter and that the each wiki is
> >> self-governing.  Frankly the autonomy of the
> wikis is
> >> hardly a choice, if you honestly consider the
> logistics of
> >> it.
> >> >
> >> > Birgitte SB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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