[Foundation-l] Voluntary self-regulation of multimedia service providers

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Fri Aug 7 07:36:48 UTC 2009


Hoi,
You morals are fine. They are not mine and I am glad that we have to live to
the best of our abilities with what we can achieve. The problem that I have
with your morals is that you want to impose them onto others with a
multitude of justifications. You have been given to understand that there is
no consensus to be had for your point of view. You continue to persue you
objectives and that is fine however, with your insistence you make the
chance of actually succeeding less.

It is ironic that I accuse you of something I am guilty off; never wavering
in trying to achieve a goal. For me the support of the "other" languages,
the support of the "other" cultures is what I am working for. It is the
reason why I stand for election as a board member of the foundation. The big
advantage that I have is that I can always work on achieving little things
and making things ready to tacle the issues. that are big to me. The problem
that you have is that you are in an all or nothing game.
Thanks,
       GerardM

2009/8/7 private musings <thepmaccount at gmail.com>

> actually - might a WMF 'code of conduct' for projects be a good idea? (as
> in
> something perhaps a dollop more pragmatic than 'comply with our mission
> statement'!) - sounds like an idea for the strategy wiki... :-)
>
> (which just in case folk haven't seen is here -->
> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and looks really good to me!)
>
> cheers,
>
> Peter,
> PM.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Milos Rancic<millosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:41 AM, private musings<thepmaccount at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >> Well yeah Milos - but we probably won't - will we! - Seems a bit
> silly.
> > >>
> > >> I was hoping we could have a thread about the principle of discussing
> /
> > >> evaluating some of the various voluntary codes of conduct out there -
> > >> perhaps someone is aware of a US standard (is that what you're getting
> > at,
> > >> Geni - that the location of the servers is probably the most important
> > >> factor?)
> > >
> > > I don't see any reason why should we follow any law which we don't
> > > have to follow.
> >
> > We don't have to follow the internet norm that making your web page
> > text BLINKING YELLOW ON BLUE is something you don't do… and yet we do.
> >
> > Don't think of this has "obeying laws", think of it that there are
> > some things we don't have to do, which aren't in conflict with our
> > mission, and which would be in our interests.
> >
> > Although the starting premise that we don't comply with a (multitude
> > of) code(s) of conduct is a bit flawed. The projects clearly do—
> > though they may not be ones written down by third parties and they may
> > be inadequate...
> >
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