[Foundation-l] TOR Nodes

[Todd Allen]

So let's block IPs if they vandalize if they vandalize or disrupt,
block accounts if they vandalize or disrupt, and let those who want to
keep their IPs private, keep them private.

I'm sure considering using TOR myself, after the recent release of IP
data from the Foundation to Video Professor. If the Foundation doesn't
plan on fighting to keep data private, I don't blame anyone who wants
to take steps to do so themselves. Granted, I can do that and it won't
affect me regardless, but that's not true of many.

On Jan 15, 2008 5:16 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> True. This issue has been raised time and again, and the issue still stands:
>
> Are we going to block Tor and do it right, or are we going to stop blocking Tor?
> Because right now, our attempts at blocking it are far below what should be,
> were we truly wanting to shut it down.
>
> Chad
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 6:15 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 15, 2008 10:07 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > There are many who disagree with it due to the 1% of good people using
> > > anon or open proxies, but it's basically en:wp policy due to the 99%
> > > sewage opening them or softblocking them results in.
> >
> > David, "opening them or softblocking them" implies that you think that
> > they are currently blocked on English Wikipedia.
> >
> > In Tor's case, it's not. At least not mostly.
> >
> > There are 1803 Tor exits in my middleman node's directory which are
> > able to reach at least one of the 5 IP/Ports which can be used to edit
> > Wikipedia.
> >
> > Of those English Wikipedia currently blocks only 261.   14.4% is
> > higher than last time I checked... But since anyone using Tor can
> > manually select their exits (as opposed to the default random
> > selection) if they aren't all blocked Tor isn't blocked.
> >
> > There have been two RFAs in the past for bots which would
> > automagically block and unblock Tor exits. But, ZOMG ADMIN BOT!!!!! IT
> > MIGHT GO CRAZY AND VANDALIZE!@#!@# NO!!! erm. I mean, the community
> > could not reach consensus on their adminships.
> >
> > If TOR, the most visible, easily used, and easily blocked proxy
> > network is mostly unblocked... How good a job do you think we're doing
> > with respect to other open proxies?  Yet the wheels still grind on...
> >
> >
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