[Foundation-l] [Announcement] Welcome to the advisory group

P. Birken pbirken at gmail.com
Mon Jan 29 14:14:31 UTC 2007


Yes, this is a great list and every single person on it has skills
that we need and that will hopefully help us in the future. It is nice
to see that the very good idea of the advisory board has taken shape.
I am also glad that this list is not closed: as much as I can
understand every single choice, the result in itself does IMHO not
reflect the international scope of the foundation as much as it
should. We have repeatedly seen in the past, how important not only
language, but in particular culture is. Thus, I urge the board to
consider more people from nonenglishspeaking countries for the
advisory board.

Take care,

Philipp

2007/1/29, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> Hoi,
> One reason to have an advisory board is to bring outsiders into an
> organisation that have a distinctly /other /approach. Angela will be
> very much a linking pin with our organisation; she is deeply connected
> to the Wikimedia Foundation and has through her activities at Wikia a
> deep understanding in how to build communities as well as an
> understanding in using MediaWiki in a commercial environment. Because of
> her new relative distance to the WMF I am convinced that we are lucky
> that she has accepted this post.
>
> Another reason why you would want people in an advisory board is because
> of the network that they bring with them. Kofi Anan, would be one person
> that would be really important if he would consider us. I do not know if
> we are audacious enough to ask him :)
>
> I disagree strongly that we should populate an advisory board with
> people that are already in our community. It would create an other layer
> of bureaucracy and I am not convinced that we need our own demi-gods.
> People that ARE within have the option to make themselves useful in many
> ways. There are plenty of things that do not get done. We talk enough as
> it is and imho we do not need another talking shop.
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
> effe iets anders schreef:
> > maybe it would be more constructive if we wouldnt stuck to this very
> person,
> > and the discussion whether he is notable or not have private? Then we
> could
> > maybe focus more on the issue that is imho more important, the *type* of
> > person that is missing. So not really names, but more the qualities that
> > lack this advisory group. Actually I am somehow missing a bit more input
> > from the communities. Most of the users seem to me (except angela)
> relative
> > outsiders, please correct me if i'm wrong. Might it be worth evaluating
> the
> > idea that in some way we should have a user of several parts of the
> > wikimedia communities? And then especially users who are more then just
> > users. So they should be active users, but also bring "a little extra",
> for
> > example, they combine that with skills on social, legal, economical or
> > ideological area.
> >
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > 2007/1/29, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Cormac Lawler schreef:
> >>
> >>> On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ray Saintonge schreef:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this
> >>>>>> advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know
> >>>>>>
> >> Sunir
> >>
> >>>>>> Shah.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ec
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Hoi,
> >>>> So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you
> >>>> notable ...
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>     GerardM
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki:
> >>> <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki> ;
> >>> <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah>. You can find his
> >>> Wikimania 2005 presentation details at:
> >>> <
> >>>
> >>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
> >>
> >>> .
> >>> I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the
> >>> advisory group.
> >>>
> >>> Cormac
> >>>
> >> Hoi,
> >> I have again looked at the website, it gives me a chaotic impression. I
> >> have looked at the presentation it is OK, however I am sure that we have
> >> people of an equal calibre in our own ranks. My idea of an advisory
> >> board is that they have to bring something extra, something fresh. I
> >> fail to see what the extra is. To be blunt, to me is seems like a "blast
> >> from the past" while we need to see into a future and reach out.
> >> Thanks,
> >>     GerardM
>
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