[Foundation-l] wiki search & wikimedia foundation collaboration with Limewire and Yacy ?

[Anthere]

thomasasta at gmx.net wrote:
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:10:08 -0500
> Von: "James Hare" <messedrocker at gmail.com>
> An: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at wikimedia.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Foundation-l] wiki search & wikimedia foundation collaboration	with Limewire and Yacy ?
> 
> 
>>Wikiasari will be a service of Wikia, not Wikimedia.
>>
> 
> 
> yes, you posted this already, and I got it now, 
> though Angela refused this seperation of foundation and wikia, after your mail:
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-December/012721.html

You misunderstood. She did not refuse separation of Wikia and Wikimedia 
Foundation. She explained that Wikiasari was not a Wikia project either.

> That´s why I used the foundation list again in CC.
> 
> Anyway, then let´s concentrate on the search-l of wikia, though I think it is wrong to have
the foundation not in the boat. Then the new search engine has nothing 
to do with wikipedia and
then the media hype is not understandable.

Precisely correct. The search engine has nothing to do with Wikipedia. 
And the media hype is not understandable.

>Is Jimmy then a freerider of the wikipedia lable ?

I can not comment, as I am not really sure of what "lable" mean here.

> Earning money with wikia (search) riding on wiki and wikipedia/ wikimedia-foundation is then like
  ... dunno how to compare.. but possible.
> 
>>From the content view it is time to have an open source engine and I do not understand,
why wikipedia community should be not participating in this, a common or 
a similar project.

If Wikipedians want to participate to such a project, they can 
absolutely do so.

> I think it is not ok, that the wikipedia community think wikia-search is from wikipedia
and they support the profit interest of wikia by free work, which resuls 
in a search engine,
which is free, but not open source (maybe the search engine is open 
source coded, but the database
has to be payed as a free, but not open source software).

The Wikipedia community does not think wikia-search if from Wikipedia. 
The media think so.

The Wikipedia community does not support the profit interest of Wikia by 
free work. Any one can go and help. But there is no more relationship.


>Jimmy speeks freely of a licensed engine...

Yes, just as Jimbo can also have political opinions, maybe a belief in a 
certain God, preference for sushis over german sausages, and more 
willingness to date women than men.


> Kind regards. tom

It may be that so many wikipedians support the idea of a freely 
licenced, search engine, built in collaboration, in the future tom. And 
it may be that in the future the Foudnation supports such a project. But 
right now Tom, there is nothing. It is just the press making up things.

I have no problem with you discussing this here, but please do realise 
that until 48 hours ago, none of us had ever heard of this project. We 
just discovered it through the press and are unrelated to it.

Best regards

Ant