[Foundation-l] new site notice now ready
Anthere
Anthere9 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 28 21:50:06 UTC 2006
Stop trolling Anthony my dear.
If (when ?) you are nice, I'll show you where the budget is published
(publicly :-)).
Ant
Anthony wrote:
> On 12/28/06, Brad Patrick <bradp.wmf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Based on the financial reality of needing to raise more money, for hardware,
>>software, bandwidth and staffing (in broad strokes), what is the solution to
>>question of financial support? Dig deeper? Blame the community of editors
>>(as opposed to readers) for not donating enough? Get the starving college
>>kid to give $3 instead of $2?
>>
>
> How about getting the starving college kid with the 300 gig hard drive
> sitting idly on a T1 connection in his dorm to lend some of that spare
> hardware, software, bandwidth, and staffing directly?
>
> Eh, I shouldn't waste my time mentioning this to you. When the forks
> start coming, and it looks like that time is getting close, one of
> them will figure it out.
>
>
>>If one day of corporate matching brings us on the order of $60,000 per
>>company, that is an enormous advantage over asking the community for more.
>>Don't you think?
>
>
> Eh, right now it's just taking the money from one group of donors
> instead of another. What would be the enormous advantage would be to
> not need the money in the first place.
>
>
>>If we have a $100,000 per month bandwidth bill later in
>>2007, it will still need to be paid.
>
>
> Is that your current estimate of bandwidth costs?
>
>
>>I will assume you would rather the
>>projects stay online than die.
>
>
> The projects will stay online no matter what happens to the Wikimedia
> Foundation.
>
>
>>If we buy another 300 servers, where should
>>the money come from?
>
>
> You shouldn't buy another 300 servers in the first place.
>
>
>>It seems clear that the reality here is beyond some
>>level of understanding with at least a portion of the people who read this
>>list.
>>
>
> Without access to the proposed budget, yeah, it's hard to know exactly
> where the money is being wasted.
>
> Anthony
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