[Foundation-l] Throwing some data onto the flamefest fire (was: English Wikipedia ethnocentric policy affects other communities)

[Birgitte SB]

--- Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/22/06, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Can you generate a list of non-blocked non-latin
> > usernames that are active editors?
> 
> You wanted 20 with at least three edits between
> September and November
> who are not blocked?
> 
> Okay:
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%E9%96%93%E4%B9%85%E9%83%A8%E7%B7%91%E9%83%8E
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%E9%96%93%E4%B9%85%E9%83%A8%E7%B7%91%E9%83%8E
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%E7%99%BE%E5%AE%B6%E5%A7%93%E4%B9%8B%E5%9B%9B
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%E7%99%BE%E5%AE%B6%E5%A7%93%E4%B9%8B%E5%9B%9B
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%E6%B1%9F%E5%B7%9D%E5%B0%9A%E5%84%AA
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%E6%B1%9F%E5%B7%9D%E5%B0%9A%E5%84%AA
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%E3%81%BE%E3%81%AC
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%E3%81%BE%E3%81%AC
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%E2%88%9A2
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%E2%88%9A2
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%E2%82%ACpa
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%E2%82%ACpa
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%D0%AA%D1%8B%D1%8C
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%D0%AA%D1%8B%D1%8C
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8_%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8_%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80_%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%87%D1%91%D0%B2
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80_%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%87%D1%91%D0%B2
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%D0%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%92%D0%B5_%D0%94._%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%9B
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%D0%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%92%D0%B5_%D0%94._%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%9B
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%CE%A6
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%CE%A6
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%CE%A0rate
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%CE%A0rate
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%CE%9A%CE%91%CE%9B%CE%9B%CE%99%CE%9C%CE%91%CE%A7%CE%9F%CE%A3
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%CE%9A%CE%91%CE%9B%CE%9B%CE%99%CE%9C%CE%91%CE%A7%CE%9F%CE%A3
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%CE%88%CF%81%CE%B5%CE%B2%CE%BF%CF%82
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%CE%88%CF%81%CE%B5%CE%B2%CE%BF%CF%82
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Macanese%E9%A6%AC%E4%BA%A4%E4%BA%BA
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Macanese%E9%A6%AC%E4%BA%A4%E4%BA%BA
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HOM%D0%AF
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:HOM%D0%AF
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%C2%A3
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%C2%A3
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/S3%2A%C6%92wN%C3%A2er5
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:S3%2A%C6%92wN%C3%A2er5
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%21%22%C2%A3%24
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%21%22%C2%A3%24
> 
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/J%E2%80%A2A%E2%80%A2K
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:J%E2%80%A2A%E2%80%A2K
> 
> So thats 20, there are more.. but I pulled these out
> of a list of
> non-ascii names by hand... I also tried to avoid
> names which were
> mostly latin characters but used a non-latin for
> garnish.
> 

Thank you for doing this.  This shows it is quite
possible to contribute to en.WP with a non-latin
username without problems.  About half of these have
active talk pages which is more than I expected. 
Clearly the blocks are coming from some admins, while
the general en.WP comunity is not going around
reporting all non-latin usernames for blocks.  I will
concede that these blocks are not a en.WP wide
practice.  I am going to leave a message to the admins
who have been setting these blocks suggesting that
they start taking them through RfC's as it is disputed
that non-latin usernames should be blocked.  The
responses to such RfC's will tell us more.


> Overall there are fewer then I expected.. but there
> are not all that
> many in the blocked list that don't look like
> vandals... so..
> ::shrugs::

Please be fair here.  Which of my 20 looked like
vandals?  How many non-vandals do you need to see to
acknowledge that people are being blocked just for a
non-latin username and not vandalism?  How many do you
need to see that are blocked with no edits to agree
that automatic blocks are happening to non-trivial
degree?  There were plently left on my list when I
stopped at twenty.

Birgitte SB

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