[Foundation-l] To all non latin wikis please start blocking latin wiki accounts

[James Hare]

Hi Walter,

I don't think it's about hatred and racism so much, but rather because
people aren't comfortable with someone with a name they can't comprehend.
Though I don't believe we should block people because of said
incomprehensible names. I still think the whole automatic transliteration is
a good idea; even if it doesn't work perfectly it still gives people an idea
of what's going on.

On 12/22/06, Walter van Kalken <walter at vankalken.net> wrote:
>
>
> >* Don't disrupt Wikipedia to prove a point
> >
> >
> Sometimes it is extremely usefull to disrupt something to get somewhere.
> Especially when the mechanism clogs up. I feel that whit such
> discrimination as is happening on en: and with random blocking just
> based on names some people need to wakened. What is next you are going
> to block everyone who is Dutch?
>
> >Let me myself add something: You're hate for anglosaxon related
> >subjects is disconcerning.
> >
> I really believe you need to reread an earlier mail I send about my
> reasons. I will inform my Ozzy, Kiwi Irish, English and American friends
> here that I have a huge hate for anglosaxon related subjects. They will
> have a good laugh with me about it. I am sure.
>
> > Your prejudgment prevents any constructive discussion.
> >
> I am extremely prejudiced were any form of discrimination is concerned
> yes. I have been on the receiving end of it far to many times in my
> life. In Surinam because I was the only white one in class. From when I
> was young because I am fat. And here in Thailand on occasions because I
> am a foreigner. So please o please do not come to me about prejudgement.
>
> >You have just proven yourself to be immature and moreover a hypocrite.
> >
> Thx you forgot my other positives: Stubborn, rude and not afraid to piss
> someone off. If you are looking for a politically correct person to talk
> with who will talk roses in your face but who will use thorns when
> talking behind your back that is not who I am, go to someone else.
>
> >Please notice that your comments are in no way helpful, and prevents any
> further discussion.
> >
> >
> Nor are the actions on the en.wikipedia. Blocking people because they
> are different is not very conductive and creates hatred.
>
> Waerth
>
> >Bryan
> >
> >On 12/22/06, Walter van Kalken <walter at vankalken.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>After Gregory's action I want to ask all wiki's who use non-latin
> >>languages as their standard to start blocking all latin character user
> >>accounts and demand they use accountnames in your script, especially
> >>those of en.wikipedians actively supporting this en: policy.
> >>
> >>Maybe this way they will understand on en: that there action is
> >>extremely biased and very very bad as they seem to insist to keep
> >>blocking good users like admins from other wiki's simply because people
> >>want to use their REAL NAME.
> >>
> >>Start with Gregory's account btw.
> >>
> >>Waerth
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Gregory Maxwell schreef:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On 12/22/06, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The en.WP Username policy has been changed.
> >>>>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Username&curid=168684&diff=95920637&oldid=95900078
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>Unfortunatly, it was changed without any valid basis.
> >>>>
> >>>>It is not acceptable to remove longstanding policy simply because some
> >>>>people on a mailing list decided to speculate randomly and accuse
> >>>>enwiki of "ethnocentricism" without substantiation.
> >>>>
> >>>>As a result I've reverted the change and contributed some suggestions
> >>>>to the talk page.
> >>>>
> >>>>I agree that the policy should be *improved* to address the real
> >>>>concerns brought up, and to be more friendly to users who work across
> >>>>many languages.  Simply removing the section does not, however,
> >>>>address the very real issues which caused the creation of the policy
> >>>>in the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Hoi,
> >>>Some people congratulated me with the outcome of this affair. My
> >>>reaction was that it did not feel like a victory because I feel bruised
> >>>by the experience. Having said this, your suggestion that there has
> been
> >>>no substantiation about the grievance that was put forward is seriously
> >>>wrong. The notion that it is up to you to revert this change continues
> >>>to make this affair even more painful. Simply reverting this change and
> >>>thereby denying that many of the reasons why this policy was put in
> >>>place is seriously wrong.
> >>>
> >>>I have to say I am increasingly upset by this affair.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>    GerardM
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