[Foundation-l] English Wikipedia ethnocentric policy affects other communities

[George Herbert]

On 12/20/06, Titoxd at Wikimedia <titoxd.wikimedia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For the record, the relevant policy is tagged as disputed, as I've done so
> now. See [[:w:en:Wikipedia:Username]].
>
> It would be really nice if the users who have participated in the
> discussion
> here could do so in the project talk page.
>
> Titoxd.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:04 PM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia ethnocentric policy affects
> other communities
>
> Brion Vibber schreef:
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> > Neil Harris wrote:
> >
> >> Different-script blocking on en: must therefore stop as soon as SUL is
> >> implemented.
> >>
> >> But, since human-readable usernames are essential to managing the wiki
> >> system, and for many people names not in their native script are not
> >> human-readable, there must necessarily be some sort of solution to the
> >> name-incomprehensibility problem before SUL goes live.
> >>
> >
> > I should just point out that SUL *changes nothing* with regard to this
> > situation.
> >
> > It has always been preferable for the same username to mean the same
> > person on all wikis, but it isn't enforced until the system is ready to
> > do that. That's all SUL does.
> >
> > A person may have different usernames on each wiki; they've always been
> > and always will be free to do that. SUL does not change that.
> >
> > A person may also use a nickname for their signatures which is cuter or
> > easier to type. Always have been, always will be. SUL does not change
> that.
> >
> > It might be useful to be able to make nicks more pervasive in their
> > visibility. SUL does not change that.
> >
> > That doesn't depend on SUL, nor does SUL depend on it in any way.
> Hoi,
> With SUL intended to provide Single User Login, the functionality and
> use of SUL is frustrated when people are then forced to create a user
> when the English language Wikipedia insists that it has to be in a Latin
> script.
>
> You can not implement SUL and then say that it is OK to frustrate its
> central premiss.
>
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
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I moved the disupted tag to the non-latin characters paragraph, from the
overall subsection, to avoid confusion.


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herbert at gmail.com