[Foundation-l] Introducing a new mailing list

[The Cunctator]

In 12/6/06, rfrangi at libero.it <rfrangi at libero.it> wrote:
>
> > Michael Snow wrote:
> >
> > Traditional list etiquette encourages that approach, yes, although
> > really I think the odds have more to do with how the message is crafted
> > than with whether it is delivered publicly or privately. Here it was a
> > difficult balancing act. It is evident that at least some people do not
> > see much of a problem, perhaps not surprising since bias and
> > discrimination often operate in subtle and systemic ways. As a result,
> > it is sometimes necessary to publicly call out examples.
> >
> > However, Snowdog is a valuable part of the community and has a good
> > reputation, so I wasn't happy to be so critical. I did try to "play the
> > ball, not the man" (sexist idiom, but the right gender in this case) by
> > focusing on the comment itself and what was offensive about it. I am
> > thankful that he continues to participate, with good grace and in a
> > constructive fashion. A "botched joke" may cost John Kerry the chance to
> > run for President again, but it shouldn't cost anyone the chance to post
> > again to this list.
> >
> > --Michael Snow
>
> Well, it was clear to me, from the beginning, that the issue of the thread
> was gender bias and sexist remarks. So basically my "sexist joke" was a
> field test (I'm not so stupid to make such comments in a place where those
> comments are in discussion).
>
> Working primarily on the italian Wikipedia, and since this issue has
> started on en.wiki (on which I do not follow the ongoing discussions), I
> wanted to realize quickly, and maybe brutally, how this kind of things are
> felt. So thanks Michael for your public reply, and you all forgive me if I
> used you as Guinea-pigs.


Wait, you were being *deliberately* inflammatory?

Sheesh.