[Foundation-l] Re: Business cards

[Anthere]

I read again the description by James. And realise I got confused by the 
"warrant" term. So, there was nothing wrong in what is written. I 
apology for not having understood well.

This said, I stand up to my opinion that mentions of stewards or 
arbitrators of the english AC has basically nothing to do here. These 
positions do not exist in the real world. They mean nothing to those 
outside wikipedia. They are unrelated to the Foundation itself. And they 
are only part of the status existing on the projects.

Ant

> First, there is no mention of local chapters at all. I regret this.
> Second, you suggest that the following positions might get a card
> 
> * Arbitrator (en)
> Member, English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee
> 
> I strongly disagree with this.
> I do not think being a arbitrator on one project grant in any sense an 
> official position in the Foundation.
> If there is need of a card, this card should have Wikipedia logo only, 
> and should not mention the Foundation itself.
> I think there is a big confusion here between being active and trusted 
> on a projet, and having an official position on the Foundation.
> If any card was distributed to an arbitrator, please ask him not to use 
> it. I think it is embarassing because it would give an authority to a 
> person on Foundation matters, where there is not I think.
> 
> * MediaWiki Developer
> Member, MediaWiki Developer Committee
> Same comment. MediaWiki is different from WikiMedia. And developers are 
> first to say it.
> The only one who could have one right now is the Developer liaison.
> Now, if MediaWiki developer need a card, by all means, let's do it, but 
> with the MediaWiki logo on it.
> 
> * Wikimedia Steward
> Wikimedia Steward
> I would tend to say that again, being a wikimedia steward does not in 
> any sense give an authority on Wikimedia matters. Plus, to be honest, no 
> one aside from us, knows what it encompasses :-)
> 
> 
>> [Snip]
>>
>> Yours,
> 
> 
> I am sorry if what I say above upset any one. I am perfectly aware that 
> a card could help some people get some doors opened, and if we can do 
> something, such as giving an official title, fine. If we can make other 
> types of cards, fine as well.
> But frankly, our internal kitchen is no one business. Being an 
> arbitrator is internal business. Sure enough, arbitrators are people we 
> generally like and trust. But if we trust them to take some decisions 
> for us, that does not mean they should appear as Wikimedia official 
> people. There is an arbitration committee on en now, elected with 
> certain rules. There will be soon one on fr, elected with other rules. 
> And maybe there is one on de ? And maybe in one year, we will have 100 
> arbitrators in all projects. Does that grant them the right to appear as 
> officials in negociations, say for hosting servers ? I do not think so.
> 
> I would hope to say that from now on, I would prefer that only those on 
> board of Foundation and local chapters, plus officials, have a card.
> I do not know Ang position on this, but I trust that Jimbo agrees. What 
> do you think Ang ?