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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Romaine,<br>
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Sad to hear this. I remember running in the same situation a
couple of years ago (2013) when a really prominent "new privacy
policy" banner was put up for everyone with a high percentage for
most of the month [1]. Back than I contacted the people at the WMF
responsible for that. I got some very polite replies that can be
summed up as "our project is more important than yours". The WMF
owns the sites so if they feel like they want to put up banners
that conflict with WLM, they can just do that and there is nothing
we can do about that (besides complaining on mailing lists).<br>
<br>
Maarten<br>
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Romaine Wiki schreef op 18-8-2015 om 20:42:<br>
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<div>Hi all,<br>
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Sad news.<br>
The title of this thread seems a bit hard, but that is
practically the situation as it looks now.<br>
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<div><b>Background</b><br>
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<div>Wiki Loves Monuments is the yearly photo contest since
2010, organised by many local Wikipedia communities and
local chapters. For this contest a banner is shown on top
of Wikipedia pages in the specific countries to attract
attention from the public to participate in enriching
Wikipedia with photos of the local cultural heritage.<br>
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Wiki Loves Monuments depends for at least 99% on the banner.
When there is no banner, the uploads and results drop
dramatically, as possible participants are not informed and
can't easily find the contest site. Also participants need
time to go on location to take photos and see the banner
above Wikipedia afterwards to find their way back.<br>
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<div><b>What is the situation?<br>
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<div>* The fundraising team plans to have a fundraising banner
in Italy during the month September.<br>
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<div>* The local team of Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy is
organising the contest in Italy and needs a banner as well.<br>
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<div>As there can be shown only one banner at the time, there
have been talks about these conflicting banners. Result:
Wiki Loves Monuments get only 37,5% of the time, the
fundraising banner 62,5% of the time. <br>
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<div>Now you maybe think that 37,5% of the time is still
large, but the appearances are deceptive because of the
different ways the banner is used, and because the
differences in numbers of upload throughout the month
September. Also the banner is not shown at all during two
full weeks, important weeks to attract participants. In the
end I estimate, based on the usage and issues of previous
years, etc, that only 10-15% of the uploads are made in
comparison what normally would have been expected.<br>
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<div>This is what I would call a devastating effect.<br>
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<div>And this is purely because of bad planning at WMF:<br>
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<div>* They haven't checked which countries participated
continuously the past years.<br>
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<div>* They haven't informed which countries are likely to
participate.<br>
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<div>* And they say they can't move the fundraising banner to
another month, but it is still a mystery why that isn't
possible.<br>
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<div>This same issue was originally the case in two countries,
but somehow it was possible to move it for the second
country.<br>
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<div>This is really sad for Italy. Extra sad because of the
difficult copyright situation in Italy, what requires the
local team already to do much much much more work than in
most other countries, just to have a normal contest. The
Italian team does a great job this year.<br>
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<div><b>My conclusion</b><br>
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<div>The community is working very hard on improving and
expanding the content of Wikipedia by organising Wiki Loves
Monuments. I always thought that this was the number one
priority of the whole Wikimedia movement. Did I made a wrong
assumption somehow? <br>
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<div>But when it actually matters, the community project bears
the bunt. This is sad, very sad.<br>
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<div>Please all, support the Italian team, they do a great job
and deserve a successful contest.<br>
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<div>Greetings,<br>
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<div>Romaine<br>
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<div>PS: I am one of the international organisers of Wiki
Loves Monuments this year, but this e-mail is written on my
personal account only.<br>
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