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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi,<div><br></div><div>Great to hear that some work on putting the data on Wikidata has already started! That should reduce some complexity with the project. If there are any limitations or problems that we should be aware of, please do tell :-).</div><div><br></div><div>We are now talking with John Cummings, that soon will start at UNESCO, about cooperation around this. Hopefully this will be possible, but there are a bunch of practical things to solve first.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I just came back from a meeting with a Swedish organization called <a href="http://chwb.org/kosovo/who-we-are/">Cultural Heritage Without Borders</a> that are interested in working with us. They have a lot of contacts on high levels in <b>the Balkans, the Middle East and in a number of African countries</b>. Their involvement could open up some doors for us and help convince the decision makers about the value of releasing this type of data. Is there anyone on this list from these parts of the world that think that this would be interesting? <br><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br>Regards,</font></div><div><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">John</font><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 07:30:49 +0100<br>From: Michael@maggs.name<br>To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org<br>CC: magnusmanske@googlemail.com<br>Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for Volunteers - WLM International Team<br><br>
Hi All<br>
<br>
You need to talk to Magnus Manske who did a lot of work last year
putting the official listing particulars of 50,000 or so UK monuments
onto Wikidata. Last year's entire UK contest was run using Wikidata as
the main database.<br>
<br>
I am copying Magnus in as he may not be subscribed to this list.<br>
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Michael<br>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px;">20 May 2015 22:43</span></font></div></div></div>
<div style="color:#888888;" class="ecx__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jon,<div><br></div><div>thanks
for that! Sounds like a good development after all. Probably you could
provide some examples of monument databased that have already been
included in wikidata? (I believe Maarten did the Rijksmonumenten, and a
few more). Also, for several countries, the wikipedia lists were the
first accessible for a wide audience. If worked out well, the result
could be the largest monument database in the world as far as I know. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Lodewijk</div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><br></div>
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<a href="mailto:john.andersson@wikimedia.se" style="color:#737F92 !important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none !important;">John Andersson</a></div> <div style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;">
<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px;">20 May 2015 12:47</span></font></div></div></div>
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Postkodlotteriets Kulturstiftelse about project financing. They have
indicated that work with the WLM database might be a way forward!</font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Hence, we are now
about to prepare an application that (if it goes through) would enable
us to put in a considerable amount of staff time to help local teams
with getting and processing the data needed for the contest, as well as
moving the current data to Wikidata for a long term solution. Also, I
would think that some statistical analysis</font><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">of the data</span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> or other form
of reporting also could be done as part of the project.</span></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Is there any local
teams that would benefit from this technical assistance for 2016?
Ideally we should present a few concrete examples.</font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">The fund is especially
interested if we could help in countries that have more limited
resources and/or where culture is at risk. This could be done even if
your team wouldn't have capacity to organize WLM next year.</font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Please let us know
your thoughts as soon as possible!</font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><br></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Best,</font></p><p style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></p><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="2">John<br>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px;">11 May 2015 11:04</span></font></div></div></div>
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update: Sadly we didn't get the funding for staff support for the
international part of WLM. </div><div><br></div><div>However, the fund
do want to support our work with preserving cultural heritage somehow
(but photo contests are outside their scope) and we will have future
meetings with them to see what we can do together. This means that in
2015 Sweden will have a national contest, but we will not be able to
help out internationally with staff support.</div><div><br></div><div>One
thing that I will be talking with them about is the gathering of
official monument data, and that would benefit WLM 2016. The question is
what we could help with from Sweden on top of the technical work on the
database? Can we support the smaller national teams somehow? Please
share your good ideas on the list so that I can give examples at the
meeting and draft a project plan for them :-).</div><div><div><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">Best,</font></div><div><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">John</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px;">14 January 2015
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--></style><div dir="ltr">Great! Thank you Lodewijk. <span style="font-size:12pt;">The application will have to be in Swedish and
we will also include the Swedish national WLM contest. My idea is that
we can specify the needs and the outcomes of the international part of
the project together so that the international team gets everything
needed. Each year the foundation I am thinking about give out around
11.5 million euros to cultural projects, and each project can get up to
500 000 euros - so we could, and should, include a lot of relevant
things.</span><div><br></div><div>I have a bunch of other applications
to finalize that have deadlines shortly, but my plan is to start working
on this application in the middle of next week. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">John</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px;">9 January 2015
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great, and I'd be happy to brainstorm with you. I guess most of the
writing is something a Swedish native speaker will have to do though,
but this kind of stuff I'd be happy to assist where possible. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Lodewijk</div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><br></div>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px;">9 January 2015
14:39</span></font></div></div></div>
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<p dir="ltr">I would be happy to look into the possibility of finding
external funding for the International contest (perhaps based on the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_international_team/2013_coordination" target="_blank">PEG
application from 2013</a>?). <br></p><p dir="ltr"><br></p>
<p dir="ltr">There are a few Swedish funds that I know of that might be
interested in supporting the international part of WLM - after all it is
pretty awesome.
If you think that I should pursue this I would of course be grateful for
any and all help with drafting the content. Even though these are
Swedish foundations some of the staff costs
might still be possible to be moved to WMNL or other chapters that have
been
involved in the international part previously (I think that would be
very
beneficial because of their expertise) - but I would have to look into
if the funds have any rules preventing that. I am sure that it could be
solved somehow. <br></p>
<p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr">The funds I have in mind have a pretty
fast process - and
we could probably have a preliminary answer from them within a couple of
months or so. Please let me know if you would like me to get cracking
at it. <br></p><p dir="ltr"><br></p>
<p dir="ltr">Best, <br></p><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">John</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">
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