[WikiEN-l] Future of this mailing list

[Brian J Mingus]

Leave the list open! There are lots of important people subscribed, and you
never know when an interesting conversation will pop up.

I'm the present moderator of a mailing list that's been active since 1988.
When an interesting conversation starts, it's fascinating to see all the
famous people chime in. That could happen here.

Best,

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've given this some thought, and pretty much come to the conclusion that
> it would be better to make this list "historic" rather than keep it open.
> This is a reflection on the fact that almost none of the subscribers seem
> to use it, that there are almost no posts to it, that it can easily become
> a black hole where a "new" subscriber is unaware that the likelihood
> they'll get a response to their email, or one that is accurate or
> actionable, is very small.
>
> In an ideal world, this list would be active and lively and chock full of
> interesting discussions. That's not happening at all.  It is better to
> consider this "legacy communication" and to lock it down (thus relieving
> the responsibilities of the probably one or two list admins who are
> actually moderating through the one real message out of thousands of spam
> messages).  It is obvious that this list is no longer serving the purpose
> it once had.  I'm not sure exactly where people are going to communicate
> now - there are lots of comments for a lot of blog posts, I understand
> facebook gets a fair number of responses, and some of the on-wiki
> noticeboard are quite active. But this list is no longer reaching the
> target community.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 11 August 2015 at 17:16, Pine W <wiki.pine at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't see much harm in keeping this list alive in a low-activity state.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Time to once again consider the future of this list and maybe also
> > > that of Wikipedia-L (as David suggested back in December)?
> > >
> > > I think I'm right in saying that apart from this list being used for
> > > some discussion of block appeals, nothing was posted here for all of
> > > June and July?
> > >
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
> > >
> > > Yup. June 2015 and July 2015 join September 2014 as 'dead' months in
> > > the archives. :-)
> > >
> > > On 12/2/14, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
> > > > <amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language
> > > >> issues
> > > >> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if
> > nobody
> > > >> is
> > > >> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it
> > shut
> > > >> down.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
> > > > bothering. Not that there's much to do.
> > > >
> > > > In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
> > > > wikimedia-l, if at all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead,
> > > except
> > > >> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - d.
> > > >
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