[WikiEN-l] Yet another PR company busted ... apparently it's all our fault

[Thomas Morton]

Well, OK, I will agree *legal* ambiguity exists of whether it is
officially defamation or not.

However that ambiguity doesn't affect the content in articles :)

Tom




On 12 November 2012 15:29, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:

> The difference is one of intent. I dispute the claim that we often defame
> people - an innocent mistake in an article is not defamation. Even if we're
> a little careless to allow such mistakes, that still isn't defamation (I
> think the legal threshold in most jurisdictions is recklessness).
> On Nov 12, 2012 3:26 PM, "Thomas Morton" <morton.thomas at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You misunderstand.
> >
> > As I mentioned: we simply have no moral high ground to criticise their
> > actions. Our controls are shoddy and we defame people all over the place.
> > They massage biographies etc. to cast things in a better light.
> >
> > Who is the good guy?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On 12 November 2012 15:21, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 12 November 2012 14:56, Charles Matthews
> > > <charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > > > On 12 November 2012 13:54, Thomas Morton <
> morton.thomas at googlemail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> We won't win a moral argument; they are breaking the social contract
> > of
> > > a
> > > >> website. We regularly defame people.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/report-usmanov-pr-firm-tweaked-wikipedia-entry/471315.html
> > > > is interesting to read in this context. The moral side of
> whitewashing
> > > > a biography ahead of a stock market flotation is fairly elusive.
> > >
> > >
> > > Indeed. I urge Thomas to go grab a copy of the Times today. If only
> > > articles this well-written concerning Wikipedia were more likely to be
> > > read by the people on the Internet who would be most interested in
> > > them ...
> > >
> > >
> > > - d.
> > >
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