[WikiEN-l] Tsunamis and disaster articles

Carcharoth carcharothwp at googlemail.com
Tue Mar 15 14:42:27 UTC 2011


Would anyone be able to help me track down examples of articles that
cover two or more things on the same page? I'm trying to work out why
we have articles that include "tsunami" in the titles, when there are
many events throughout history that caused tsunamis that don't include
that in the title. I tried searching for "and" in the title and found
these examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2010_Sumatra_earthquake_and_tsunami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/869_Sanriku_earthquake_and_tsunami

But there are many other examples of tsunamis not "attached" to the
event that caused them.

Most are here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_tsunamis

Articles on some of the causative events of the tsunami listed in that
article are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700_Cascadia_earthquake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansei_Great_Earthquakes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1908_Messina_earthquake

There are also some tsunami with their own articles and none on the cause:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1771_Great_Yaeyama_Tsunami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Severo-Kurilsk_tsunami

Ones caused by landslides are arguably correctly given their own article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Lituya_Bay_megatsunami

However, it seems a bit of a mess at the moment.

There are other disasters that take the form of causative event
followed by an effect that causes the most destruction. The two
examples I've seen used are Hurricane Katrina, where the storm surge
and flooding caused most of the damage (though almost any hurricane
that size that hits land will cause a storm surge and flooding) and
the firestorm that can take hold after some earthquakes (notably the
1906 San Francisco Earthquake).

On other words, tsunami are not something that occur by themselves.
They are caused by something, and I'm not sure that the currently
evolving practice of tacking tsunami onto the end of the title of
articles about the causative event is the right approach. It seems to
be a recent approach, and I'm not entirely sure where the best place
is to discuss this, as individual renaming discussions don't seem the
best place to get an overview of the whole effect. Where is the best
place to discuss naming conventions if no specific guidance exists?
Would it be the talk page of the 'Article titles' policy, or would a
more specific place (the 'events' naming guideline) be better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28events%29

Carcharoth



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