[WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

[Anthony]

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Carcharoth
<carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather
>>> than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie
>>> to me. A lie is saying something that you know to be untrue, this is
>>> simply a disagreement regarding what is true.
>>
>> Assuming his *latest* story is the truth (and it seems to be), the
>> lies would be when he told the reporter that August 7 was incorrect,
>> when he told Encyclopedia Britannica that August 7 was incorrect, when
>> he told the reporter that Wikipedia got the date from Britannica, and
>> when he referenced the reporters story on his blog saying "for the
>> first time the world has a proper source".
>
> It sounds to me more like he didn't know the truth himself, and his
> mother later told him what the source of the confusion was. No need to
> accuse anyone of lying, as far as I can see.

No, he made a comment similar to the one he made in 2010, in 2004,
which he later had oversighted, to try to cover up his later lies.

---
"My actual birthday is August 7th, 1966. This is unverifiable
information, I'm sorry to say, since my driver's license and passport
say August 8. If we must revert on that basis, then I guess we must...
Maybe I'll have to upload a signed note from my mom as documentary
evidence; the only proof that I have is her sayso."
---

That's what he said September 18, 2004.  So no, this wasn't an honest
mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says).  And
it wasn't even just Wales being misleading, as he so often does.  This
was an intentional lie.

So I don't trust what he says about the first edit to Wikipedia.  It
may be true.  It may not be true.  We'll probably never know.