[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Do you want to write pages that thousands of people see every day?

phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki at gmail.com
Mon Feb 21 21:02:49 UTC 2011


The video intro is awesome, Sage :) I'd love to see more variations on
a theme with various people, too -- and maybe some experimentation
with interspersing screenshots etc. But I like it because it is short
and to the point and friendly, and it gives a human face to a kind of
intimidating wall o'text. And I am not normally a person who likes
videos :)

cheers,
phoebe

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Sage Ross
<ragesoss+wikipedia at gmail.com> wrote:
> Since it's a WMF holiday and I can do whatever I want with my time, I
> made one too.  ;)
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Video_walkthrough
>
> Like FT2, I welcome  any edits to make it look better.  And feedback
> about the content is of course welcome too.  I can always do more
> takes with revised scripts.
>
> -Sage
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson
> <wikihannibal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is good. I'll make sure we'll test this as well.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Lennart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/2/21 FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com>
>>
>>> I'm not usually one for graphic design, so this could probably do with
>>> improving and relevant links adding.
>>>
>>> I've added a version that could be helpful at
>>>
>>> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/mod2
>>>
>>> What I'm hoping to address are:
>>>
>>>   1. Layouts "original version" and "redesign" are too close to "wall of
>>>   text" for many newcomers. Even though they are simple short bullet lists
>>>   with icons, I'm concerned they'll skip it. A better layout and a few
>>> brief
>>>   bullets may do better and also be more informative.
>>>
>>>   2. The audience is people who want to get involved, so an overview they
>>>   can come back to might be helpful. I have assumed this page is linked
>>> from
>>>   the toolkit so they can always find it.
>>>
>>>   3. It might be better to have a link for "editing", and save the mention
>>>   of policies there. At the start a user needs to know the basics, that
>>> some
>>>   stuff will be ok and some won't, and "click here to find out which". Then
>>>   they are reading it *by choice* and it'll probably be more "sticky" as a
>>>   result.
>>>
>>>   Words like "policies" may tend to overwhelm or frighten many of those we
>>>   want to engage.
>>>
>>>   4. The section for "readers" also includes* "Reading, or want to make
>>>   improvements and corrections?" *The *unstated thought *is that a reader
>>>   will also be someone who might want to make a small correction. Gut feel
>>>   says that a major route is readers who are then tempted to make their
>>> first
>>>   correction, or who need to know they *can *think of it. I'd like to see
>>>   the effect of including "making a small improvement or correction" *as
>>>   part of info for end-users*, not just keeping it separate.
>>>
>>>   Not technically accurate but may be effective this way, as "editing"
>>>   could be felt as overwhelming (initially) where "make a small correction"
>>>   may be perceived as empowering.  Many people may think "someone should
>>> fix
>>>   that" and despite all our pages, not fully realize the "someone" is
>>> allowed
>>>   to be *them*.
>>>
>>>   5. *I have not put links in yet.* I would not make individual words,
>>>   lines, or sentences a link. Link proliferation is a distraction, we found
>>>   that out in the record 2010 fundraiser. Make each section (except the
>>> last)
>>>   to be *one* link clickable anywhere. Unfortunately (bug
>>> 18640<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18460>)
>>>   the <a href...> html tag can't be used yet in markup, otherwise I'd make
>>> the
>>>   entirety of each cell a single link to some (short) relevant subpage.
>>>
>>>   I'd actually like it done via a popup, that appears when you click a cell
>>>   for information. That's more classy and suited to the richer interface of
>>>   other modern websites, but outside my skills. Anyone else know where I
>>> can
>>>   find a basic "click this and get a dismissible popup" DIV class? :)
>>>
>>>   6. Should contain something interesting and engaging too :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Feedback and any design-related questions welcomed!
>>> Not sure where to link this from/to though.
>>>
>>> FT2
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>>
>>
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