[WikiEN-l] Missing Wikipedians: An Essay

[Fences&Windows]

>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:40:35 +0100
>From: Mike  Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Missing Wikipedians: An Essay
>
>Well this is a similar problem I am having with adding details to, or new 
>articles about Kosovo, even my attempts are getting deleted.
 
Mike, certainly this would be a systemic bias issue, but some of your editing 
needs refining to avoid running into problems.
 
>Having problems even getting the Turkish, Bosnian or Albanian alternative names 
>added without being deleted, even if sources
 
Why should all these alternate names by included in the English Wikipedia? I've 
seen you raising these name disputes repeatedly on this list and at various 
noticeboards; you need to stop forum-shopping and instead open an RfC so this 
can be centrally discussed. You're looking a bit like a single-purpose account 
on this issue and such issues have been taken to ArbCom before, see 
[[WP:ARBMAC]]. Tread carefully.
 
>let alone a coverage of members of parliament (list of them deleted as not 
>notable).
 
That list was 1) formatted in a very unusual way, with each person having a 
heading and with almost no wikilinks 2) almost entirely unsourced. It wasn't 
deleted as non-notable, it was deleted as being a directory. If you want lists 
of living people to stay you need to format them according to the manual of 
style for lists and source them properly. Particularly for such a controversial 
area as Kosovan politics we cannot be cavalier about making claims to do with 
living people. I have restored the history to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mdupont/List_of_politicians_in_Kosovo and
 I have begun cleanup. If you want such a list back in mainspace, it needs 
formatting and sourcing properly.

>Also local pop-stars who are not notable by English newspapers are deleted, even 
>if they are well know and unavoidable.
 
If you can provide reliable sources in non-English languages, such articles can 
certainly be kept. I've done so before. The key is to actually provide the 
sources and not merely assert notability.
 
p.s. The format of my emails tends to come out weird on this list - sorry.