[WikiEN-l] declining numbers of EN wiki admins - The theory that making it easier to get rid of admins is a solution to the decline in their active numbers

[David Goodman]

The reasonable people here who discuss this are not the admins about
whom there is a problem. There are many admins who make errors and
refuse to discuss them, and a few who deliberately and intentionally
ignore the restrictions of deletion policy.  I have so far not even
attempted the various ways of calling them to account,  because WP
process tends to  sweep in the innocent along with the guilty, and the
result tends to be decided on the basis of popular vs. unpopular.  If
there should be someone whom I thought was causing significant ongoing
harm, and whom i personally disliked in addition, I would still not
initiate  formal process, because the conclusion is as likely to be
their vindication as their censure.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:43 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30 May 2010 11:36, WereSpielChequers
> <werespielchequers at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> As for the idea that we should move to "Hi, I noticed that you
>> speedy-deleted some files that do not appear to meet the CSD criteria;
>> your SysOp staus has been removed _while we discuss it_". I've done
>> over 4,000 speedy deletions, and very probably there are more mistakes
>> amongst them that I know about, but if someone thinks I've deleted
>> something in error I'd expect a first approach along the lines of
>> "would you mind having another look at [[deleted article]],  I don't
>> see how it was an attack page".  Maybe I've made a mistake, maybe so
>> much has been oversighted that it no longer looks like an attack page,
>> maybe there are words involved that have very different meanings to a
>> Yank and a Brit. But a desysop first and ask questions later strategy
>> would in my view generate far more drama than would be justified by
>> the results.
>
>
> Indeed. The first - and, I would have thought, jawdroppingly obvious -
> result would be that no-one at all would go near such work in any
> circumstances.
>
> The problem with RFA has long been arbitrarily increased standards,
> and in recent years the abusive nature of the gauntlet.
>
>
> - d.
>
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David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
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