[WikiEN-l] declining numbers of active EN wiki admins

[Del Buono, Matthew Paul]

I agree actually. It would also open the opportunity for rangeblocks on editors that dodge autoblocks more easily.

However I don't think you will ever achieve consensus for this. There are people in the community today that advocate blocking ip editing entirely, not just article creation. Getting those users to agree with opening anonymous article creation will likely be difficult. I'm not one of those people, but I recognize their presence.

Shirik
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-----Original Message-----
From: MuZemike <muzemike at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:31:40 
To: English Wikipedia<wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] declining numbers of active EN wiki admins

I'll add that it doesn't take much to simply create an account and 
create an article that says "I luv Jane Doe she iz so awsumtastic!!" 
While banning anonymous creation in the mainspace had its good 
intentions, it's probably not as useful now as it was intended.

For instance, just today I speedy deleted a whole group of articles 
about some classmates in a primary school somewhere in the UK. If anons 
were allowed to create mainspace articles, and instead of a registered 
user creating these articles we had an IP, then not only would there be 
more transparency in who is creating them and where (as only CheckUser 
can see underlying IPs from registered accounts), but if blocks are 
needed to prevent disruption, we can make them relatively short-term 
(instead of the common practice of indefinitely blocking registered 
accounts as "vandalism-only").

Of course, it can also be argued that disallowing such editing may 
indeed help in smart article creation by reducing the number of crap 
articles (I mean complete crap) that gets created. There is probably 
some tradeoff there in new page creation as far as anon creation is 
concerned.

-MuZemike

On 5/28/2010 11:29 AM, Alan Liefting wrote:
>
> AGK wrote:
>    
>> On 28 May 2010 16:48, Alan Liefting<aliefting at ihug.co.nz>  wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> A lot of rubbish articles get created
>>> that need to be speedied.
>>>
>>>        
>> That's very true. And the CAT:CSD workload is more prone to backlog
>> than it was a couple of years ago, perhaps because RfA is not as
>> sympathetic to the 'recentchanges patrol' editors (the kind who keep
>> such backlogs down) of years gone by.
>>
>> AGK
>>
>>      
> Keeping editing as a *very* open model makes extra work for the active
> editors. Since the anons cannot create new articles we are now getting
> millions (?) of bad faith editors creating an account to make edits.
> There are now over 12 million editors - many of them are blocked and
> many are "drive by" vandals with only a few edits.
>
> Account creation or new article creation by new users needs to be changed.
>
>
> Alan Liefitng
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