[WikiEN-l] Replacing admins with a slower less efficient method for blocking vandals and deleting attack pages

[WereSpielChequers]

I'm happy with the idea of provisional adminship, as I think that
could be a solution to several problems. I would also welcome some
sort of jury system for decisions likely to be contentious (though I
don't see hou you would identify those more effectively than the
current arrangements of posting things on AN/I). My comments were in
response to the idea of replacing admins with juries to delete attack
pages and block vandals.

WereSpielChequers

On 24 August 2010 15:41, Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote:
> All those concerns are addressed by the idea I proposed where people
> can do temporary admin actions (obviously this ability would be
> swiftly taken away if abused) that are later confirmed or reversed by
> a "full" admin. I think the overhead would be worth it, along with
> some real metrics to judge people by when they run at RFA for the full
> flag. The problem is finding a developer to: (a) say whether it is
> feasible; and (b) to actually write the changes needed, including the
> code for making these "temporary" admin actions appear in a separate
> log (with the logs capable of being suppressed if needed as with any
> logs) and only appearing in the permanent logs if approved. If
> reversed, the actions would probably look like "suppressed" actions.
> Obviously, the details would need working on, but now that suppression
> and revdel is at a more mature stage, it shouldn't be too hard to
> adapt the code to this sort of purpose (though obviously with a
> different name and so on).
>
> Carcharoth
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM, WereSpielChequers
> <werespielchequers at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I appreciate that your suggestion is not to have admins. But aside
>> from the issue that juries will be slower and less efficient than the
>> current system for dealing with attack pages, what is the error rate
>> for admin deletion of attack pages and blocking of vandalism only
>> accounts? There are areas where admin decisions are sometimes
>> challenged or contentious, but in my experience the deletion of attack
>> pages and the blocking of vandalism only accounts rarely if ever
>> involves admin errors. So this proposal would replace a system that
>> works well with one that at best would achieve comparable results but
>> more slowly and less efficiently.
>>
>> As for blanking attack pages, yes patrollers can and do do this. But
>> that doesn't stop people cyber bullying by  emailing a diff of the
>> attack page, nor does it help when as so often happens the name of the
>> attack page is itself an attack.
>>
>> WereSpielChequers
>>
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