[WikiEN-l] Invitation for review

[Nathan]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> George Herbert wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is a mailing list for block reviews, this isn't it. We also
>>> don't usually get into discussing specific content issues here unless
>>> there is a point of wider significance to the encyclopedia.
>>>
>>> You believe Holocaust denial can only be defined using the separate
>>> definitions of "Holocaust" and "denial", and want the article to
>>> reflect your definition. Others state (correctly) that the term
>>> "Holocaust denial" taken as a whole is used to refer specifically to
>>> denial of the Holocaust of Jews (Shoah). Perhaps if we try to glean
>>> wider significance from this incident, it would be in the area of
>>> dealing with specious arguments from editors of long tenure who have
>>> become sophisticated in their misuse of dispute processes.
>>>
>> This dispute looks either like some combination of original research,
>> disruption, or possibly active but intellectual support of holocaust
>> denialists.
>>
>>
> Original research perhaps; disruption perhaps, but it is dishonest to
> call it "intellectual support of holocaust denialists."  Expanding a
> term to a wider application certainly does not equate to holocaust
> denial.  It merely recognizes the plain fact that those who deny the
> suffering of other victims than the dominant group are just as guilty of
> denying the Holocaust.
>
> I don't dispute that the Jews were the dominant victims of the
> Holocaust, but it is extremely disturbing when some appear to abuse that
> dominance to minimize the suffering of others.  That the victimized Jews
> were more numerous than the others increases the likelihood that they
> have relatives to write about them. The higher value that Jews attach to
> literacy also increases the same likelihood.  Gays had a much lower
> number of progeny to write on their behalf.  So I fully expect that more
> will be written by Jews about Jews, but the smaller numbers of others
> does not make the fate of those others any less tragic.
>
> Ec


This is an amazing thing you've written. I've read your posts for
perhaps two years, but I will read all future comments in an entirely
new light.

Nathan